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Skriven 2009-04-27 20:24:01 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 5453 av Ross Sauer (1:123/789.0)
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Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in
 RS> news:9576$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

 EH>>>>>> Hatred is *NOT* part of Christ's teachings, so their claim is
 EH>>>>   moot.

 RS>>>>> That's odd, because Jesus condemned an entire city.

 EH>>>> Please try to understand what you read.

 RS>>> I understand it perfectly.

 EH>> No, you do not. There is no hate involved in Jesus' condemnation.

 RS> Oh?

Your ignorance is well known by now. No need to reinforce what we already know
about you.

 RS>>> Here's the verse in question:

 RS>>> Matthew

 RS>>> 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his
 EH>>   mighty works RS> were done, because they repented not:
 RS>>> 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if
 EH>>   the mighty RS> works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre
 EH>>   and Sidon, they would RS> have repented long ago in sackcloth and
 EH>>   ashes.    (11:21-24) RS> 11:22 But I say unto you, It shall be more
 EH>>   tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at RS> the day of judgment, than for
 EH>>   you. RS> 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven,
 EH>>   shalt be brought RS> down to hell: for if the mighty works, which
 EH>>   have been done in thee, had RS> been done in Sodom, it would have
 EH>>   remained until this day.

 EH>> He is condemning the fact that they do not repent form their sins.

 RS> What "sins" did all of the towns in question commit?

Read the Bible.

 RS> Including the babies?

Good grief.

 RS> And don't give me that "original sin" bullshit.

Any more restrictions?

 RS> If it was a "original sin" then all those born between the time of Adam
 RS> and the time of Jesus are "sinners."

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

You have no clue.

 RS> It's more obvious, that someone had a prophet and his followers walk up
 RS> to him, tell him to repent and all that, and he told the bunch to sod
 RS> off.

Say what?

 RS> So Jesus got pissed and condemned the towns.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

 RS>>> So even the babies born in those towns are doomed?

 EH>> Good grief. Do try to educate yourself.

 RS> Are they?

Read the Bible.

 RS>>> Well, according to legitimate archaelogical sources, those towns
 EH>>   didn't RS> suffer destruction like Sodom did.

 EH>> So, those towns were not destroyed? Physical destruction of buildings
 EH>> means nothing.

 RS> Translation, please.

Jesus' condemnation didn't necessarily mean the physical buildings would be
destroyed. He was talking about the people who did not repent.

 RS>>> (And from all archaelogical evidence, Sodom was destroyed by a
 EH>>   severe RS> earthquake and subsequent fires.)

 EH>> Your point?

 RS> That all this supernatural stuff is just gibberish, more prosaic
 RS> explanations work better when describing events.

Are you saying God wouldn't use earthquakes and fire? Do tell.

 RS>>> Once again, you show that you know diddly squat about the Bible.

 EH>> You just showed your own ignorance. Nothing you quoted indicated
 EH>> hatred by Jesus or anyone.

 RS> So Jesus condemned those towns out of love?

It wasn't out of hate.

 RS> You really are a fundy idiot.

You are just an idiot.

Ed

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