Text 5773, 143 rader
Skriven 2009-05-01 20:52:20 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
   Kommentar till text 5770 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: It is the 1st.
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Hello Ed!

01 May 09 20:12, you wrote to me:

 EH>>> Why Jeff? Dan is the one making things up. Jeff hasn't once
 EH>>> mentioned Ceppa's family.

 RC>> I was shown a quote where it was.

 EH> Where what was?

Dans kids.

 RC>> However the current feud involves them both.

 EH> It's Ceppa all the way. No matter how many times you set him straight,
 EH> he continually lies about what is told him.

and look at all the energy you all are expending to get him.

 EH>>> How about the wild-eyed comments Ceppa has made about my choice
 EH>>> of religion?

 RC>> Good grief, have you forgotten about all the stuff that has
 RC>> gotten said about any religion in this echoes heyday?

 EH> I didn't participate much in the "heyday" of this echo. Why are you
 EH> brining up stuff that is years old? I thought you said that is all
 EH> water under the bridge and it shouldn't be discussed.

I tried not to eliminate the old elements of the old echo in deference to its
long time users. What I tried to add in was instead of having the echo as it
once was, which was a place to belittle religion, I wanted those of religion to
be able to push back. You are holding you own, quite well.

 RC>> Why are you bitching now?

 EH> Huh? I was led to believe this is a new echo by the moderator.

Except what lies underneath is to just get Danny.

You cannot sit with a straight face and tell me that without him or even Sauer
in here, that many of you would have bothered to use this echo.

 RC>> You voluntarily enter a swamp and complain about the mosquitos?

 EH> I don't mind the mosquitoes. It's the continual lies perpetrated by
 EH> your co-moderator.

One persons lies is anothers truth, otherwards the person telling them might
actually believe them to be true.. Having said that, I will look closer at his
posts and others, today is the 1st you know, have you no patience?

 M>>>> The current back and forth, he said/he said/you are a liar
 M>>>> debate is over.

 EH>>> When will we see a retraction from Ceppa?

 RC>> I suspect never.

 EH> Then why on earth did you make him co-mod if he can't even follow the
 EH> rules? Nor, apparently, do you expect him to.

The NEW rule set in its entirety took effect today. I applied a few aspects of
it early, like real names, he complied with that nearly instantly factoring in
echolag.

 EH>>> You chose Ceppa as your co-mod and you have to address a
 EH>>> moderator message to him? Amazing.

 RC>> I used to be his co-mod in POL_INC and he moderated me a time or
 RC>> two in there,

 EH> Oh, so it's all okay then?

Absolutely, he isnt perfect, neither are you and I.

 RC>> he moderated Gothreau in there as well, whom was he co-mod prior
 RC>> to me.

 EH> Ceppa likes to make up rules as he goes and he puts on his moderator
 EH> cap when he gets in a corner and can't handle the truth.

You also forget that I added in a rule pertinent to moderator rulings, he nor I
can partake in replying to a message to continue the thread if we intend to
moderate the original author, or mix the two aspects in one reply.

I think when I announced the new rule set, you and several others selectively
read through the announcement and didnt read the entire rule set or when its
effective date was.

 RC>> Why is it so hard for people to realize that a moderator is a
 RC>> participant first before they are a moderator?

 EH> Not in Ceppa's case. He will throw on his moderator cap whenever he
 EH> can't handle the truth.

See above.

 RC>> Honestly Ed, here is what I have gotten from both parties:

 EH> Quit crying. You took on the echo voluntarily.

and you and others entered the echo voluntarily, see how that works?

 RC>>  From Dan:

 RC>> It is Jeff's fault

 RC>>  From Jeff:

 RC>> It is Dan's fault

 EH> Why don't you actually read the threads in question and make up your
 EH> own mind about it?

Yes, alot of projecting, I agree but there is something more to it Ed, it is
called Get Danny.

 RC>> I suspect that both have a grain of truth in their claims.

 EH> Again, make up your own mind instead of trying to be impartial.


Being impartial is a better position, however no matter which way I go, no one
is gonna be happy, everyone is a victim.

I made Dan my co-mod because he was a long time member of this echo and had an
interest in the echo, I am not going to punish him on ANYONES say so because of
long standing grudges.

You once told me that no one makes you do anything, well guess what..

I will deal with Dans transgressions on my own terms, not yours.

==
Ross
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