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Skriven 2007-02-06 23:16:45 av Oleg Dolgikh (2:5030/1022.11)
     Kommentar till en text av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
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Hello WAYNE.

06 Feb 07 03:43, you wrote to me:


 WC>> Hey ignorant guy.
 WC>> I'm from Marblehead Massachussetts.

 OD>> So? It automatically makes you an expert? I don't think so.

 WC> Have you read the Salem MA. town archives of the rye ergot
 WC> infestation that blighted Salem those years?

No, and I hope I never will.

 WC> I have.

Congratulations on a time well wasted.

 WC> Seen the PBS documentary of same and of similar instances
 WC> in Europe as well as more contempary  accounts in Italy the
 WC> later involving hallucinations and deaths???

No. But - I read enough about 5 centuries of developement of witch-hunting
doctrine to understand how exactly full of shit this attempts to rationalize
the whole phenomena using far-fetched scientific-looking theories are.


 OD>> So you do come from a stupid part of a stupid country. What were
 OD>> you so proud of again?

 WC> The stupid part of the country from which sprung

a bunch of redneck dipshits who blaimed innocent women for crop failures and
burned them. Also, you.

 WC> Just off the top of my head. I can look up thousands of more pages of
 WC> historical U.S. Background if you like? Oh, the U.S.S. Constitution
 WC> docked in Boston, Bunker Hill....

And with ancestry like that they just went ahead and burned some witches?
Stupid, stupid country.


 WC>> What's your evidence for "real witches?"

 OD>> Are you daft? They sacrificed babies to the devil!

 WC> So didn't the Indians of Central and South American.

Nope, no babies. just guys. Anyways, their priests were guys and they didnt
worhship the Christian Devil. Otherwise they would be witches.

 WC> U.S. Army cavalry troops distributed smallpox infected blankets to
 WC> native Americans.

Military tactics. Not ethical, but pretty effective.

 WC> Manifest Destiny was pursued in the name of God.

Aaand?

 WC> The Crusades.

Were 90% politics

 WC> Iraq II.

Was 100% politics

 WC> So what.

No idea. My theory is that you decided to throw in a bunch of unrelated facts
in a desperate attempt to look smart.


 OD>> I dont know if it worked or not, most likely not, but they fucking
 OD>> sacrificed fucking babies to the fucking devil, that's "real witch"
 OD>> in my book.

 WC> What use would you have for a book? I cannot for a moment believe you
 WC> capable of reading with comprehension.

It is so very nice of you to retort to my valid statement with an unrelated
remark about my percieved comprehensive disability. You really are a discussion
king.


 WC>> Rye ergot is the latest explaination for those reports from Salem
 WC>> and Europe.

 OD>> Yeah, modern science can tell us an exact kind of crop failures
 OD>> we had several centuries ago.

 WC> IDIOT.
 WC> Albert Hoffman - Swiss scientist at Roche Phamacuticals
 WC> Discoverer of Lysergic Acid Di-ethylidamide.
 WC> LSD.

OMG. I thought they had some big crop failures in Salem, this led local
rednecks to believe witches are to blame, but this? Man, use your critical
thinking for God's sake, you brag about having some!


 WC> Rye ergot is the precursor chemical in it's synthesis.
 WC> Modern experiments have demonstrated ergot in rye converted to LSD
 WC> in the bread baking process.

CAN BE converted, in small amounts and in specific conditions.

 WC> Thus hallucinations and belief in the supernatural, ghosts.
 WC> hobgoblins and Gods and other stupid nonsense to keep those like you
 WC> ignorant weak and powerless.

Nope, just hallucinations. Pretty weak ones too, with trace amounts of LSD -
bright colors and stuff.


 WC> Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Kindly remove your head from your rectum and BEHOLD MY SUPERIOR SCIENTIFIC
KNOWLEDGE: hallucinogenes and opiates are two different kinds of substances
with no common traits whatsoever. So your generic off-the-hand cliche remark
misses the spot again.


 WC>> You have an awful lot of beliefs for a rational person don't you?

 OD>> Unlike you, i don't pose as a 100%-percent rational guy.

 WC> You're ignorant.
 WC> Willfully ignorant.

And you are pompous and stupid. Glad we found each other.


 WC> People the world over die needlessly for the likes of you.

Can you die for me? Please? Like, right now?


 OD>>>> The same stuff they told people about not killing and not
 OD>>>> stealing and whatnot. Bullshit too?

 WC> Killing is manifestly real.
 WC> Stealing is manifestly real.

Yeah, but the _wrong_ part. Concepts of right and wrong are manifestly
make-believe.

 WC> Spooks, Santa, Batman and Gods are not.

Oh, so you only believe in what you can see? Shame. No quarks for you then.

And btw batman is real. I've seen the guy. His real ame is Adam West.


 WC> Big deal, you've a dictionary and proved you can lookup
 WC> effluent.
 WC> It spews from you effortlessly and prodigiously.

You seem to put an awful lot of thought in your defecation process. Maybe it is
time to put it somewhere else?


 WC> Can we please get back to
 OD>> how abysmally wrong and arrogant you are?

 WC> Sure.
 WC> What would you care to know about me?

Do you have any kind of medical condition? It would explain a great deal.


 WC> Care to point out anything wrong I've said?
 WC> Demonstrably wrong that is?
 WC> With substanative support for any such contention?

Well, you said i can't comprehend books and am willfully ignorant. I'd love
some substantial evidence that led you to such conclusions. Otherwise you are
just a rude sack of shit.


 OD> RS>>>> Unless you can actually show some clear evidence
 OD> RS>>>> otherwise...

 OD>>>> Don't worry, you'll get plenty of evidence in time =)

 WC>> There is no time, it's a human convention to measure entropy you
 WC>> silly.

 OD>> So, in one sentence you claimed physical phenomena does not exist
 OD>> AND gave said phenomena's kinda physical definition? God you are
 OD>> stupid.

 WC> Time has substance?

Have I ever said that? Let me check... nope. Just your regular leap of logic.


 WC> Entropy is a physical phenominon, not time.

Grreat argument! Can I use it? Ahem...

Gravity is a physical phenomenon, not enthropy!


 WC> Time is a concept.

Can it be percieved, directly or indirectly? Then it is a phenomenon. That is
kinda definition, you know.


 OD>> All that to show you know the word 'entropy'? Probably have a
 OD>> knowing of nukular fishun too.

 WC> I like fishing ( correct spelling of fishing to the left)

so no problems with "nukular"? God you are a pathetic grammar nazi.


 WC> Fresh water Bass and salt water Sea Bass, Grouper, snook, flounder
 WC> and other kinds of fish.

So go and fish or something, but don't partake in activities you have no idea
how to go about. Like sarcasm.


 OD>> Time is not a measure of entropy, if you must know. saying this
 OD>> is like saying space is a measure of size.

 WC> Gads, you're far more ignorant than most who dare enter here!
 WC> Time IS a manmade concept describing entropy.

Time describes ANY and ALL modifications of matter-energy composition, entropy
being ony one of them, the others include a little thing called "movement",
ever heard of it?


 WC> Entropy is disorder, heat death,

Entropy is heat death? do you want to take a rain check on this statement or
can i call you a miseducated ass right away?



Oleg

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