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Skriven 2009-06-20 11:09:00 av PETER COGGON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av JOHNJWILSON
Ärende: Re: evil
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Hello Pastor John N' Shaggy...

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 Jo> There is no such thing as evil. the Universe is not evil. Evil is a
 Jo> man-made concept. The only good is knowledge; the only "evil" is
 Jo> ignorance. Socrates knew what he was talking about. Bad things happen,
 Jo> invariably due to ignorance.

  What you don't know can not hurt you .....YET ....give it time to get there.

 Jo> On There being two Gods...
 Jo> Jews and Muslims say there is one god...Christians believe in three.
 Jo> (Except for the heretical view expressed elsewhere on line...)(where
 Jo> somehow 'the Holy Spirit' is viewed as an error...)

  OR ...you pray to someone already dead to get the ear of the GOD to
hear your views.    Being trying that for years....didn't work.

 Jo> On 'bible thumping': I think it's great. the Bible is a glue to the
 Jo> culture WRT literateness  as well as theologically. The more you are
 Jo> familiar with it the better it reads :-) Political conclusions from
 Jo> biblical quotes should be met with a questioning attitude: It has been
 Jo> used as a propaganda vehicle for hundreds of years. The theologies
 Jo> (plural) contained in the New Testament is a delightful subject: Paul,
 Jo> James, John: all quite different, and glossed over by many as somehow
 Jo> deprecating. There have been incredible strides in linguistic
 Jo> evaluation of the new testament: Ancient languages (Aramaic,
 Jo> Hellenistic Greek, The koine Greek used by new Testament
 Jo> writers/gatherers...a lot of progress in clarity of meaning and
 Jo> accuracy of translations ... leaves the King Jsmes Version of 1611 as
 Jo> an honorable, excellent effort, but it IS 400 years old...I still read
 Jo> it with pleasure, but I have 11 other versions with which to compare
 Jo> notes... My main point is that the TEACHING of Jesus is almost
 Jo> universally ignored - to think that by accepting Jesus on the cross you
 Jo> have a ticket to heaven while ignoring his teaching is I think one of
 Jo> the mainstays of atheism (which in the main is but rebellion against
 Jo> organized religion with its mind control and greed.) n la TV: "God
 Jo> wants you to be rich! So send me money!"

Yes...Amen ...

 Jo> :-)Going to church makes you a Christian, as does standing in your
 Jo> garage, makes you a car. :-)

I would say my parents were Christian, and while I never saw them go
to church, they lived their lives in a correct manner.  Up bringing
I guess helped there.

I don't need to stand in the garage to be a car.   I get gased up
anyhow, but when I go to hit the gas, I never go anywhere.
I need emmission controls.

 Jo> Cheers!
 Jo> John Wilson Pastor, Founder and Chief Poet
 Jo> The Church of Variable Likelihood 
 Jo> (The only Church in North america that doesn't accept money :-) )

Thanks John ...  As El Presidente of the People's Republic of JP
you have my endorsement.   I look forward to your next thumper .

Peter



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