Text 1330, 94 rader
Skriven 2006-05-20 09:03:48 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
   Kommentar till text 1312 av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
Ärende: Immediate Action Require
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19 May 06 19:31, Philip Lozier wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>>>>> How do you know who to send it to? By reading policy

 MvdV>>>> And how do you know you can find these facts in p$ if you have
 MvdV>>>> never heard about it before?

 PL>>> If one does a search on "how to join fidonet", it would be crystal
 PL>>> clear. The information is out there... everywhere.

 RW>> You would think so. But as I recall logging onto net202 NC's BBS at
 RW>> the
 RW>> time, all of that info was there, but nothing that told you how to
 RW>> go
 RW>> about doing it, procedure wise.

 PL> What I find a lack of is software help.  As far as proceedure wise,
 PL> typing a search on the internet for "joining fidonet", "how to join
 PL> fidonet", and "join fidonet" produce a variety of different places
 PL> that tell you how to do it.

However, that doesn't help the POTS user, which is Michiel's point.

 PL> The most "to the point" one, I think, is
 PL> http://www.fidonet.ca/joinfido.htm

 PL> Other than software setup it is "step by step".  The first thing it
 PL> tells you is to get a basic knowledge of fidonet and your seftware,
 PL> and to get a copy of P4 and the current nodelist.  The rest basicly,
 PL> as it should be, leaves it up to the SysOp to follow the "procedure"
 PL> as set in P4.

Years ago, I wrote an instruction article called Frontdoor for Idiots.
Even Jack Yates used it to make his first Fidonet setup...

 PL> It lays out before the proceedure (the site) that it is wise to be a
 PL> user first on a FidoNet BBS first while getting to know your
 PL> software.

The problem there is, you only get to learn the BBS software, or at best,
point software. Knowledge gained from the latter would help if you were
attempting to set up a mailer, however.

 PL> Other sites go more into the idea aside from application proceedure
 PL> that joining Fido is not to be taken lightly, and unless they are
 PL> willing to commit to the responsibilites entailed with being a node,
 PL> that they should be a FidoNet BBS user, or use a point package, at
 PL> least while gaining knowledge.

Which is a turnoff to the new prospective member. Newbies usually want to
dig in and bury themselves into this 'new' hobby.

 PL> All of what I see above is more than sufficient in my eyes.  So be it
 PL> if we have more users and points than nodes... that's what FidoNet
 PL> lacks the most these days and where attention should be focused.  Why
 PL> does everybody have to be a "node"?  I was a FidoNet BBS "user" for
 PL> quite some time when I ran my old Atari support BBS ... even though
 PL> it had netwroking, it wasn't compatible with FidoNet, but I was still
 PL> a FidoNet "user".  I don't see anything wrong with that.

Been there, done that...being a node is much better...

 RW>> How to go about it should be an
 RW>> adendum to
 RW>> policy...or should have been, as it's too late now.

 PL> If some areas see a need to more well define it, then local policy so
 PL> long as it doesn't conflict with P4 is no problem.  Just defining it
 PL> better in the procedural sesne doesn't coinflict, so no issue.

 PL> As far as I'm concerned, a netmail here to 1:267/9999 with an
 PL> application for the node number (indicated by the listing in the net
 PL> segment to signify the preference of the net here -which policy says
 PL> a net can signify it's own preference-) with contact info so I can
 PL> assign a temp number tothem and do a few two way test runs with the
 PL> temp number will get that node listed as soon as it's confirmed we
 PL> can exchange two ways.  As to siftware setup help... I will help in
 PL> any way I can, or point to somebody who can if I am not overly
 PL> familiar with what they are trying to run.

 PL> It's a pretty straight forward process for anybody who takes the time
 PL> to figure it out, and if they want to be a fidonet node, that's what
 PL> they need to do.

 PL> Phil

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Roy
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