Text 1818, 167 rader
Skriven 2006-06-19 09:32:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 1817 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: CopyRight Ownership Arguement
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Hello Roy.

18 Jun 06 18:30, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> Sure, they do that all the time. They love cutting people's
 MvdV>> accounts.

 RW> Especially when those people are abusing the service they swore they'd
 RW> abide by.

Abusing? He was using the service for what it is meant: tie a doamin name to an
IP address. Everything else took place on his own server.

And I don't think there was any sworing either.

 MvdV>>>> This Felten seems a good one for today. Snap!"

 RW>>> 'cause he's got all these copyright movies on his system,

 MvdV>> Movies? Are you sure there are copyrighted movies on his system?

 RW> I was positive, until he password protected them. Still, the titles he
 RW> displays must be copyright too.

The *titles* are copyrighted?

ROFLASTIC!

 MvdV>>  I ask because I don't see any, so maybe I am missing something.

 RW> You miss a lot, don't you.  I doubt that the movie rights to "The Last
 RW> Sumari" starring Tom Cruise, aren't copyrighted. Just to name one.

Well, I don't see that movie there, let alone that it is downloadable.

 RW>>> and HEY, look there, he's also got a complete collection of
 RW>>> Playboy Centerfold pictures.

 MvdV>> Complete? Hardly, the last ten years are missing.

 RW> Not according to his "Centerfold" list. 2006-2002=4 years...

Have you actually downloaded any of those pictures? If not, how do you know the
list is accurate?

 MvdV>>>> Sure Roy, sure, that is how it happened.

 RW>>> Not likely...

 MvdV>> Indeed not likely.

 RW> Let's not take it out of context.

The context was "snitching".

 MvdV>>  *Very* unlikely I say. Someone put them on the trail. An you are
 MvdV>> in the top three on my list of suspects.

 RW> I wish that it was me,

You regret someone lese beat you to it?

 RW>  but alas, I told somebody else about it and wallah.

And that "someone" wouldn't be somenone working at dysndns?

 RW> You see, he's made more than one or two enemies in his stay here.

Oh sure, you rae not the only suspect on the list. You are not even number one.

 RW>>> but let's put this shoe on your other foot.

 RW>>> Are you advocating that online businesses allow software pirates
 RW>>> like Felten to break the law using the services provided by
 RW>>> them, which is clearly in violation of their 'terms of service'
 RW>>> ?

 MvdV>> I say it is wrong for anyone or anything to attempt to impose
 MvdV>> their laws on the citizens of another country.

 RW> I'd say you are a software and copyright pirate,

Your opinion is noted. I still say it is wrong for anyone oir anything to
attempt to impose their laws and morals on the citizens of another country. And
I will continue to say that as long as I have the breath to do it.

 MvdV>> They should leave the law of other countries to those in charge
 MvdV>> of enforcing those laws.

 RW> Would you prefer that the mafia enforce them?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

 MvdV>> If that brings them in conflict with their own laws they should
 MvdV>> not accept foreign customers to begin with.

 RW> If the pirates were to not distribute material belonging to someone
 RW> else, the world would be that much better off.

If the copyright mafia would not claim rights that were never theirs in the
first place the world would be a much better place.

 RW> Theives should not only be punished by imprisonment, they should
 RW> suffer Islamic theft laws.

Be careful what you wish for. The US empire won't last forever. You may live to
see it fall and the rightful owners of the oil that was stolen from them in
Irak and other places may be beating on your door to do to you what you now
wish to others....

 RW>>> Before you stuff both feet into your big mouth, keep in mind
 RW>>> that DynDns.org is a US based company doing business within the
 RW>>> USA where such software violations as we've seen on the Felon's
 RW>>> website, is against the law.

 MvdV>> I am aware of that. I am also aware the as it is a free
 MvdV>> service, the customer does not have much of a bargaining
 MvdV>> position.

 RW> As a paying customer, I don't have any more right to violate copyright
 RW> law than the freeloaders do.

Law enforcement is not the job of the supplier of the goods or services. It is
not for them to judge if law were broken and it is not their job to enforce
laws. As a paying customer I am in the position to demand that hey do not
Interfere with how I use the tools that I buy from them. The hardware store
does not check on what I do with the axe I bought from them either don't they?

 MvdV>> All that leaves unchanged that we have a snitch in our midst.
 MvdV>> Or more than one.

 RW> I think the fate of copyright violators should be shooting by firing
 RW> squad, composed of those they've stolen from.

I think that those attempting to impose their laws and morals on others should
be fed some of their own medicine. For you that would be your Camaro impounded
an run through the compactor for waisting this planet's scarce resources.

You will not be allowed to shave yourself from now on. You will have your right
hand cut off for being an accomplish in stealing from third world countries.
Your wife shall wear a burka whenever she appears in public view and she shall
not speak to any other man on the penalty of death. You shall not use toilet
paper. You shall not bath during a full moon.

You shall hand over all your guns and if yo are ever cuaght in firing a gun
again you righat hand shall be cut off. If you no longer have a right hand,
your left hand will be cut off.

You shall not have sex with overaged women. Overaged women being women who can
no longer have childeren. The legal limit is set at 45 years. Violation is
punishable by castration. A second offence is punishable by death. You shall
not even *think* about having sex with overaged women. And be warned that there
are police officers posing as overaged women all around trying to frame you.

You shall have one women and one woman only. You shall have sex with that women
and only with that woman. You shall not use condoms or any other meand that
interfere with procreation. The punishment is to be banished from heaven.



Cheers,


Michiel

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