Text 2213, 89 rader
Skriven 2006-07-19 10:22:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 2211 av Vladimir Donskoy (2:5020/2992)
Ärende: Z7 again
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Hello Vladimir.

19 Jul 06 11:00, you wrote to me:

 VD>>> Are you read unpassword incoming?

 MV>> Of course. I accept and process raw *.PKT netmail from anyone.
 MV>> What point is there in being in the nodelist if one only accepts
 MV>> netmail from a few priviliged sources. That is like being listed
 MV>> in the phone book but only accept calls from your friends.

 VD> You read netmails personally or by robots?

Both. There are two robots scanning every netmail. One scans for pontlist
segments, the other is a general netmail tracker. (OT-Track).

Messages adressed to my points and other downlinks are forwarded. Messages
adressed to me are read when I get to it.

 MV>> If you do not accept mail from at least every nodelisted system,
 MV>> you should be listed as a private node or a point.

 VD> I _accept_ netmail from any (not only nodelisted systems), but I
 VD> _read_ it not every time. However my robot (FTRACK) alerting me about
 VD> receive unpassword netmail and analise it (if this netmail from
 VD> elections process), but I read it not every day.

So mail to your points coming in from an unsecure link is not automatically
forwarded?
 VD>>> At any case easy send mail by establishing password link (by
 VD>>> route) with reliable official system (hub)

 MV>> What if I do not want your hub to read the mail?

 MV>> Besides, I do not have a password with your hub either. What if
 MV>> he does the same? I can not have a password with every host and
 MV>> hub in FidoNet.

 VD> Sending netmail by unprotecting link your receiver can't sure that
 VD> this netmail sending from you and it have not a false.

So what? FidoNet is a public network and an open system. You can never be sure
that a routed netmail is authentic even if it comes in via a link that is
secure on the last leg. To ensure that a netmail is authentic you need
something above and beyond FidoNet. LSuch as a digital signature.

 MV>>>> So what rights - other than the right to send and receive mail
 MV>>>> - does a sysop have?

 VD>>> Voting for example.

 MV>> Where does it say that sysops have a *right* to vote?

 MV>> Sysops do not have voting rights. In some nets and regions there
 MV>> are givben the opportunity to vote, but that is all up to the net
 MV>> or region. The net or region can extend the same to points. As
 MV>> has been done in some regions. denmark f.e.

 VD> Time is current... You live at very old time, now other era.

No, you are living in the past. Points can votes just as sysops do. All that is
needed is that you shake the idea that they can not.

 MV>>>> Put together two masses of 0.5 kg each of U235 and you still
 MV>>>> end up with 1 kg of something... provided you included the mass
 MV>>>> equivalence of the released energy...

 VD>>> 0.5 kg is low,

For a bomb, yes. I had no intention of making a bomb.

 VD>>>  I wrote "same kgs" (I not remember precise number of critical mass,
 VD>>> but it more 10 kgs).

Add 7 dB to that figure. For U235. For U233 it is lower...

 MV>> Whatever. In real life one plus one equals two as well, no matter
 MV>> how many word games you play.

 VD> This correct only for sample variants, not any cases. I listed there
 VD> samples "contra" this. Lets stop talking about this empty things...

Fine with me. It was you that started the word game...


Michiel

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