Text 2509, 83 rader
Skriven 2006-12-06 09:46:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 2501 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: FidoNews Editor MIA?
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Hello Dale!

On Wednesday December 06 2006 00:01, you wrote to me:

 DS>>    I'll quote two such admissions from another echo in another
 DS>> message.

 MVDV>> An echo that I read? Well, I may hacve missed it. Or forgotten.
 MVDV>> Just like you may have missed or forgotten me admitting to an
 MVDV>> error.

 DS>   :-}}  Not only an echo that you read, but one of the messages was to
 DS>   you -- as you later see.

Then I must have forgotten. I get too many messages to remember all of them.

 MVDV>>> despite the fact that I have observed you to be wrong on
 MVDV>>> many occasions.

 DS>>    Name two, other than the two I quoted elsewhere :-}}
 DS>>    BTW, two is not the same as many.

 MVDV>> I think there is no point in that. It will simply lead to a

 DS>    In other words, you can't produce verifiable evidence for your
 DS>    statement.

No. I just do not think it is worth the effort.

 MVDV>> repeat of the yes/no discussion we had then. Other than
 MVDV>> that I do not keep archives.

 DS>   Except when it suits you.   You seemed to be able to pull up the
 DS>   message that xxCarol was responding to from some sort of archives
 DS>   somewhere.

That message was still in my message base as it is less than three month old.
Messages are purged if they are over three month old or if there are more than
X messages in the area. X varying between 300 and 1000 depending on area.

 MVDV>> Example: I do not need to see satellitie pictures to verify
 MVDV>> the fact that the earth is not flat. Standing on a beach at
 MVDV>> a very calm clear day with a pair of binoculars will
 MVDV>> provide verification.

 DS>   How about needing to see satellite pictures to verify the fact that
 DS> the Soviets were building missile bases in Cuba (in the 60's)?

I can not say, I was very occupied with other things in the early sixties.

 DS>   There are times when evidence cannot easily be made public.

Too easy an excuse. And too easily abused as we have seen recently regarding
Iraq.

 MVDV>>> But I insist on there being a way for independant
 MVDV>>> verification of the facts and not having to resort to just
 MVDV>>> take someone's word for it.

 DS>   Most of the time that is a decent and scientific attitude.  There
 DS> are times when it is just not possible.

Nonsence. There is always a way. The only reason George Bush could not provide
evidence for the presence of WMDs in Iraq is that there weren't any.

George Bush lied when he said said Saddam Hussein had WMDs. And only those who
accept claims as fact on authority alone fell for it. Too many
unfortunately....

 DS>>   I'm not sure how you jump to that conclusion.  But I will not
 DS>> discuss Iraq in any public forum.

 MVDV>> But you cannot stop me from explaining why I bring up Iraq.

 DS>   You can discuss it all you want, but leave me out of it.

You have already responded, so you are already in. like it or not... ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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