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Skriven 2006-12-19 08:46:45 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
   Kommentar till text 2579 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: FidoNews Editor MIA?
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 MvdV>> Lawrence Fan is off line. No POTS number listed and his static IP
 MvdV>> number does not have a reverse dns associated with it.

 ml> rDNS is _not_ required...

 MvdV> Yes it is. RFC 1912, 2.1:

interesting... firstly, you choose a document titled "Common DNS Operational
and Configuration Errors" and try to use it to state what is required... then
you also point to a section of said document that doesn't even contain rDNS or
the term "reverse dns" or similar...

 > Make sure your PTR and A records match.  For every IP address, there
 > should be a matching PTR record in the in-addr.arpa domain.

hummm... keyword "should"... not "will" or "must" ;)

 MvdV>> (No Ptr record) That is the equivalent of "This number is no
 MvdV>> longer in use".

 ml> completely incorrect ASSupption...

 MvdV> It is not an assumption, it is a conclusion. "For every IP
 MvdV> address, there should be a matching PTR record in the
 MvdV> in-addr.arpa domain." So if there is no PTR record, the IP does
 MvdV> not exist. QED.

then it is an erroneous conclusion... the document you point to does not state
that reverse dns is _required_... in fact, said document uses the word
"required" only three times... once in reference to glue records, once in
reference to SMTP servers supporting the MX mechanism and lastly in reference
to being required to have at least two nameservers per domain...

 ml>  especially since rDNS is _NOT_ required...

 MvdV> Wrong.. See RFC 1912.

reading comprehension error...

 MvdV>> Terri Roati? No contact information at all. Off-line.

 ml> i see the problem... because _you_ can't contact them directly, you
 ml> erroneously thing they are offline when they are not...

 MvdV> A server that lists no contact information is off-line for all
 MvdV> practical purposes.

wrong... off-line means "off the network" as in "physically turned off" or as
in "disconnected cable"... you can't directly contact any of my machines on my
internal LAN but by your definition, they are offline when, in fact, they are
very much online all the time and providing data and services...

 ml> carol has told you more than once that they are pulling mail from
 ml> their feed like clockwork...

 MvdV> So do my points. Your point?

they are not offline...

 ml>  what more do you want?

 MvdV> I can not believe you are too dense to know the answer. So you
 MvdV> must be trying to provoke me.

no provocation at all... education and correction, yes... absolutely... it is,
afterall, what brought us together the first time and also what has pretty much
brought us together each time since then... you still owe me a concession,
too... you got one and turned your back afterwards...

)\/(ark

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