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Skriven 2006-04-20 08:41:28 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
    Kommentar till text 297 av Vladimir Donskoy (2:5020/2992)
Ärende: Situation on R2:50
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19 Apr 06 10:19, Vladimir Donskoy wrote to All:

You've probably read some discussion here about the Z6C killing off
Zone 6 by this coming June. Why not take back to your collegues the idea
of moving your Fidonet Region to Z6. There you can appoint your own ZC who
can work with your collegues to form your own ZMH. That would solve two of
your problems without having to work within Z2's. This would also be
easier than creating another zone within Fidonet.


 VD>                           Hello All!

 VD> Having read through messages in this an echo, I have understood that
 VD> sysops (and even ZCs) do not represent a situation in R50 and our
 VD> referendum in particular. Therefore I have decided to describe it in
 VD> detail.


 VD> For the first time speech about creation of a separate zone for us
 VD> has arisen about 15 years ago. It proves cleanly technical reason -
 VD> inconvenience Z2MH for us, namely: our region covers time zones with
 VD> GMT+3 to GMT+12 (however nodes now locate only up to GMT+10),
 VD> therefore Z2MH GMT
 VD> 2:30-3:30 corresponds already now in Moscow (GMT+4) to local time
 VD> 6:30-7:30, that is inconvenient for the majority of house and some
 VD> office nodes. Now this problem is solved crookedly: replacement ZMH
 VD> on NetworkMH is entered, that contradicts Policy. The significant
 VD> part of sysops simply ignores requirements ZMH (that in particular
 VD> explains the big number of nodes in R50).

 VD> There are still more some occasions to creation of the zone, for
 VD> example - difficulty of coordination of the big number of networks
 VD> one person (any expert on management will confirm an inefficiency -
 VD> if not impossibility - to operate over 150 subordinates without
 VD> attraction of an intermediate link of management and the control).

 VD> Owing to the above-stated necessity of allocation R50 for a separate
 VD> zone is clear. However the structure of a new zone and feature of a
 VD> transition period are expressed in the different points of view.

 VD> One group of sysops offers full renumbering networks (in a network
 VD> nobody attempts upon addresses of units :) ), more precisely
 VD> reflecting a geographical position of a network. Others suggest to
 VD> keep existing numbering of networks, having replaced only number of a
 VD> zone in the address, having facilitated that transition (as in echoes
 VD> addressing only 2D). The third arranges and and so, they can change
 VD> as all address (with relinking and resigning to echoes) and only
 VD> number of a zone. The fourth consider that all necessary can achieve
 VD> and within the limits of 2-nd zone. And at last the fifth consider
 VD> that anything to change is not necessary - let FIDO itself will die
 VD> :) .

 VD> Therefore also it was necessary besides the fact "needing transfer to
 VD> the zone" to define and structure of this zone (number of each of the
 VD> above-stated groups), as it has been solved by the lead referendum.


 VD> Carrying out of a referendum was entrusted to the sysop of other
 VD> region - Serguei Trouchelle 2:550/357 , Israel - which has lead it
 VD> within 3 months. All sysops R50 have been informed by netmails on a
 VD> referendum, NCs have published the information in local á¨á®¯áª¨å
 VD> íå å, and its course was shined in official regional sysop's echo.
 VD> Thus, all wishing to vote were able to do it (as Sergey accepted
 VD> letters not only on routing, but also by direct, including through
 VD> the Internet). And if they have not voted that simply because it the
 VD> destiny of region is indifferent and by that have given the right to
 VD> solve the destiny to other, more active sysops.


 VD> Results of referendum such: for 3 months it is received and counted
 VD> only 561 voices. For a variant of creation of a zone with
 VD> preservation of numbers of networks of 140 voices. For creation of a
 VD> zone with full renumbering - 68 voices. For creation of a zone by any
 VD> way - 146 voices. Against creation of a zone and the decision of
 VD> problems within the limits of Z2 - 34 voices. Against any changes in
 VD> FIDO - 173 voices.

 VD> Thus as a whole for creation of the zone 354 voices that makes 63%
 VD> interrogated have expressed. On the basis of it application IC for
 VD> creation of a new zone also has been submitted. It has been right at
 VD> the beginning informed, which actions will be undertaken RC in case
 VD> of a victory of this or that variant, as has been undertaken by him.


 VD> I do not know, what exactly has answered Malcolm (and whether it has
 VD> answered in general). Most likely the inquiry is transferred for
 VD> discussion in ZCC, but ZCs does not know all aforesaid, and cannot
 VD> pass the decision. I ask them to consider it and to pass the positive
 VD> decision under our application.


 VD> Vladimir Donskoy.

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Roy
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