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Skriven 2006-04-20 21:15:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
    Kommentar till text 313 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
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Hello Carol.

20 Apr 06 14:51, you wrote to me:

 CS>>> shifted the hour of it but I'm the far eastern edge.  Guam hits
 CS>>> something like 0700-0800local.

 MvdV>>  MvdV>> 0700-0800 does not sound problematic to me. It isn't
 MvdV>>  MvdV>> exactly prime use time is it?

 CS>> Yes, can be.  Weekends to grab a packet.

A single user "grabbing a packet" does not make prime user time.

Twenty years ago whe I was younger and more energetic, I used to run into a
closed door with my favorite BBS at 4 in the morning. It was explained to me
this was because of "Fidonet rules".

yes, of course, no matter when you slot ZMH, there will be the odd user who
will be affected. 0700-0800 does not seem like an example of a big problem to
me.

 CS>> That causes just as much of a hash.  Then its something like
 CS>> 4-5pm local.

As I said before, the ZMH issue is not such a big issue as it was before in the
POTS only age.

 MvdV>> The IC may reason that observing the proper nationality is more
 MvdV>> import than a "convienent" ZMH.

 CS> Hence the final demize of ZMH seems to me.

I am merely pointing out that the next IC may weigh the arguments differentky
and hence arrive at a different decision when a new node emerges in an area
where there presently are none.


 CS>>>   Technically most of the 'Arab' nations come under Z6

 MvdV>>  MvdV>> Says who?

 CS>> Says the GLOBE on what parts are ASIA.

 MvdV>> Odd, none of the globes or maps that I have here has lines drawn
 MvdV>> on th with the bounderies of the continents. It would appear
 MvdV>> that the bounde of the continents are not well defined.

 CS> They are to an extent.

Not really. Especially between Europe and Asia.

 MvdV>> Other than that: The fact that zone 6 is loosely defined as
 MvdV>> "Asia" doe not mean that it has to cover ALL of Asia. And
 MvdV>> apparently those in charge of the decision at the time ruled that
 MvdV>> Saudi arabia had to be listed in Z2.

 CS> Saudi nodes probably preceed creation of Z6.  Logistically it is
 CS> easier to place them in Z2 due to ZMH issues.

It does not make all that much of a difference. It is on the edge for both and
Z2 is almost as wie as Z6.

 MvdV>> And what about Egypt? What about Marocco? What about Tunesia?
 MvdV>> All arab nations. Should they be in Z6 too?

 CS> Look above.  I never said 'all'.

And with that goes the most argument as well.

 MvdV>> What religeous problem?

 CS>> Asia is easy about such but would never have combined Isreal and
 CS>> Saudi.

 MvdV>> They were never "combined". They were in a different region.

 CS> Really?

Yes.


 CS> Why does Ward mention from time to time that this was a problem?

There was a problem wit Saudi, but it was not that is was "combined with
Israel". The problem was being in FidoNet at all. There was a problem with
local regulations and a member of the Royal family. Had nothing to do with
Israel. Ask ward when he returns.

 CS>> Asia is a high moslem area

 MvdV>> Really? The biggest country: China definitely is *not* Muslim.

 CS> Aagin you go on.  I didnt say *all*.

When you say high muslim area, I take that as that a substantial fraction of
the population is muslim.

 CS>   It's concentration of Moslem as a religion is high but not all are
 CS> that nor was there any insinuation of that in my statement.  Quit
 CS> twisting things all out of shape.

Perhaps you should put some more effort in writing clearly what you mean. Asia
is not a "high Muslim area" in my perception. Yes, some parts are, but the same
goes for Europe or Africa.

The country with the highest number of Muslims is Indonesia, that is not Asia.

Michiel

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