Text 755, 55 rader
Skriven 2006-04-30 14:12:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
    Kommentar till text 739 av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
Ärende: IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED !!
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Hello Philip.

29 Apr 06 16:57, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> Net/9999 (four nines) is reserved by P4 as a temporary address
 MvdV>> to use for new node applications in case the software of the
 MvdV>> applicant does not support -1/-1.

 MvdV>> The consequence of this reservation is of course that net/9999
 MvdV>> should NOT be assigned to a regular node. It should not appear
 MvdV>> in the nodelist at all.

 PL> I disagree with you based on that a new node is supposed to apply for
 PL> their node number -via- netmail...

Yes....

 PL>  that would mean they need to configure their mailer with 9999 as
 PL> their primary aka and contact the NC's mailer.

Obviously...

 PL> If the mailer attempting to be connected to will only accept calls
 PL> from nodelisted systems

Obviously an NC should *not* configure his/her system as LO. That new
applications only come frrom net/9999 is just theory and a wrong one at that.
In practise he/she can expect applications to come from: 1) sysops using a
number they once had but which is no longer listed. 2) From points using their
point number. 3) and from people using -1/-1 - the number listed as first
preference in P4. The latter can never appear in a nodelist.

Configuring a system as LO is pretty useless anyway. Any security it may appear
to offer is just that: an appearance. An unlisted sysop can easily assume the
node number of a listed sysop and connect anyway. Unless one has arranged a
session password with every listed system in the nodelist. Which of course in
not feasible.

 PL> then not having the 9999 listing in the net segment will prevent the
 PL> new node from ever sending the node application.

If an NC *must* configure his system as LO for some obscure reason, the obvious
solution is to have net/9999 in a private nodelist. He will have to configure
such a private entry anyway when he/she is going to send a reply to the
applicant.

Having a net/9999 entry for new apllicants in the public nodelist is plain
wrong as that sysyem can never be contacted by the public and it does not even
make sense to send routed netmail to it.


Michiel

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