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Skriven 2006-04-15 13:26:41 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
     Kommentar till en text av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
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*** Quoting Philip Lozier from a message to Ward Dossche ***

PL> Well... then as he has been saying, the Russian portion of FidoNet tha
PL> resides in Asia should migrate to Zone 6 where they actually belong in
PL> the first place then.  How they ever ended up being part of Z2 when ge
PL> they are not in the coverage area is beyond me in the first place.  Th
PL> realistic part of it.

This was Li's point when he listed RC50 and Vladimir.  Unfortunately, both of
those people reside in the Europe portion of Russia (Moscow).

While i was quite in agreement to wait and see once I knew why they were there,
I also required it be done 'properly' if there was to be a shift.  I notified
Ward of the 2 stray nodes within the first week of taking on Z6C.  It took a
bit to get the information straight on the listings, at least partly because
Anatoli wasnt told either and by then, Li had stopped talking.

Had Ward agreed, I would have turned all Z6 over to R50 after a suitable
election for a new Z6C.  That or the Asian sets of R50, if they desired to do
it that way.  I believe had the 'referendum' gone with a larger than 15%
desiring to move, Ward would have looked at the idea seriously and done what
was best for the health of Fidonet.  As it is, the Russian sysops themselves
voted this down so there isnt much point in Ward looking at it further.

I do not have the full text of the vote or the answers but those ZC's that do
all said it was a very splintered item and too many variations in answer to
tell what they wanted.  The only clear 'voice' was that 15% wanted change
meaning 85% didnt.  It's not clear if there were whole nets who wanted change.
It's very possible they voted just on a Z7 creation and not a 'shift Asia to
Asia'.  That would make sense too as most of the Russian sysops I have talked
with, did not want to split Russia or even the former USSR areas who are all
Russian speaking, into more than one zone.

For me, I would rather demise Z6, than see Fidonet splintered, hard though it
is to demize one's own zone after working so hard to try to keep it valid. 
Facts are facts though.  Li stopped talking after being roundly told that
hischoice of successor was going to have to stand for a vote and post at least
something (he had never been heard from before).  Anatoli has had system
problems so bad, that a sea going Z6C was a better option.  Terry moved to Z3
though has a system in PR still picking up mail like clockwork.  Stewart
stopped answering netmail and email.  Lawrence is the same though last check
his static still resolved but his last known feed in Z3 says he hasnt
connected in ages.  Alex died about the time Vladimir came to Z6.  The 'Doc'
in Singapore shifted to Inet totally.

I've done my best and know I've done my best.  Unless something radical happens
which i do not expect, I've asked Malcolm (and the other ZCC's) to expect we
remove Z6 around mid-July which timeframe suits well for my being here if
there are last minute problems requiring a 'fast fix'.

                                       xxcarol

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