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Skriven 2006-05-05 10:31:59 av Vladimir Donskoy (2:5020/2992)
    Kommentar till text 893 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: Re: Situation on R2:50
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Hi Roy!

Wednesday May 03 2006, Roy Witt wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 VD>> Policy have information about elections only 3 places:

 VD>> 1.2.5 - "Zone Coordinators are selected by the Regional Coordinators
 VD>> in that zone."

 RW> The word 'selected' means the same as appointed. Not elected.

Who can "appoint" ZC? So - it is elections... But means I understand.

 VD>> 6.2 - "The Zone Coordinator is selected by an absolute majority vote
 VD>> of the Regional Coordinators within the zone."

 RW> The word 'selected' means the same as appointed. Not elected.

 VD>> 7.2 - "The International Coordinator is selected (or removed) by an
 VD>> absolute majority vote of the Zone Coordinators."

 RW> The word 'selected' means the same as appointed. Not elected.

 VD>> Another cases of elections is absent in Policy...

 RW> That's because there are no *C elections mentioned in policy. Only
 RW> selections.

 VD>> So - 8.6 is one of the points with text of elections (system of *Cs
 VD>> election).

 RW> No, there is nothing mentioned about the (s)election of any *C in that
 RW> section. 8.6 deals with a policy change and only a policy change.

No, it's wrong.

 VD>> Note - all of them are "selected", not "elected"! I am not sure in
 VD>> different this words, and think that "elect" is "select by votes".

 RW> Selected means that an NC is appointed by their RC, who in turn is
 RW> appointed by their ZC. And in turn, the RCC selects and appoints the ZC.

Appoint can make by only high power level, so ZC can be appoint only by IC (or
ZCC).

 RW> There are no *C elections mentioned in Fidonet policy.

 RW> Voting, as in P4, section 8.6 is for policy changes and policy changes
 RW> only. You may be thinking of 8.2 - 8.3, which is used in the case of an
 RW> impeachment proceeding, as mentioned in 8.7.2, but it's only a guideline.

8.7.2 say "election" ("by votes") (because this is process of changing ZC), and
procedure as 8 . So - it is a single sample of "elections" in P4.

 VD>> Thank you for your Regional Policy. I wait your ail.

 RW> You should have it and a few other items by now. Check them out. Only the
 RW> regional policy is in affect and approved by our ZC. I say approved
 RW> because the Z1C still appoints the elected RC. If that person is
 RW> acceptable to the ZC. And, one time, she fired an elected RC and appointed
 RW> the runner-up in that election, claiming that she hadn't approved of
 RW> their regional election policy. So, an RC election is not set in stone
 RW> unless you get your ZC to approve it.

 RW> The others were proposals that never got implemented, although they should
 RW> have. And a comment about P4 by the founder of Fidonet, Tom Jennings.

Yes, I received all these. Thank you.

Regards, Vladimir Donskoy

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