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Skriven 2005-01-28 07:12:00 av Gerald Miller (1:342/512)
    Kommentar till text 196 av Frank Vest (1:124/6308.1)
Ärende: Fighting Spam
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Hello Frank,

    Responding to a post in the INTERNET area:
    On Thursday January 27 2005 at 00:45,
    Frank Vest [1:124/6308.1] wrote to Gerald Miller,
    about: Fighting Spam

 GM>> I don't remember if I replied to this message or not....
 FV> Me neither. :)

I'm getting old.  What's your excuse?  <g>

 FV>> I have Firefox on my system here. Not bad, but no e-mail support.
 FV>> I assume you use a web interface to get e-mail?
 GM>> I think you will need Mozilla / Thunderbird for the e-mail.  I'm
 GM>> using Mozilla (with the Quick Launch feature) on my XPP box and
 GM>> it shows a "E-Mail & Newsgroup" launch menu -- I don't use it.
 FV> Yup. But I'll stick with Netscape untill they drop it totally. :)

Whatever floats your boat.

 FV>> You've stated the problem. "this doesn't always work....". :(
 GM>> I read a news article that the FBI has a web site and they are
 GM>> actively pursuing Spammers and their ISPs -- it may be worth
 GM>> looking into; maybe your info will prove to be useful for them.
 FV> Possible. Problem is that some of the spam comes from out off the USA.
 FV> The FBI won't be able to do much about that, I think.

That's the same reason I won't send reports to them and for the fact that
they have no jurisdiction in Canada so they're unlikely to read anything I
may send to them.

 FV>> the ISP of that person. Sadly, as I said, they do not give much
 FV>> help with who the correct ISP is.... even if they know.

 FV>  <..>

 GM>> do a Google for IPv6... It is my understanding that when IPv6 is
 GM>> implemented, it will make it much easier to track the spammers
 GM>> (and it will be extremely difficult for them to falsify their
 GM>> originating e-mail address).
 FV> This sounds good. IMHO, much of the problem is tha ability to "spoof"
 FV> or just plain fake/falsify/lie about the origin of the e-mail in the
 FV> header. Stop that and one will see a drop in spam like you can't
 FV> believe! :-)

Just out of curiosity, I did the "ipv6 install".  Then I ran "ipv6 if >
ipv6.txt" which gave me a two page (double spaced) worth of data that I can
reference later.  I then did "ipv6 uninstall" and had to restart XPP to
complete the uninstall process.  The one thing that I did *_NOT_* do (and I
will do the next time I install ipv6), was fire up my web browser and try
to access the router configuration manager.

Very impressive IP addresses.  I'm not sure if it was providing the IP
address for the Win98SE box (which was running on the network at the time),
and that's one of the reasons I want to access the router configuration
manager.

 FV> While not impossible, FTN systems have a harder time faking the FTN
 FV> address and path. :)

I'm not online (at this moment), what is FTN?

[snip]

 FV>> hassle involved in that, or not using that DNS blacklist server.
 FV>> I usually choose the latter, even though it means more spam gets
 FV>> through. Of course, that only allows e-mail to come into my
 FV>> system. Other server that use that particular dns blacklist can
 FV>> not receive from me. Sometimes this is a major ISP. :(
 GM>> I am also a sysop, but my Fidonet system is totally isolated from
 GM>> any Windows and, I don't run a BBS, but I can sympathize with
 GM>> your problems. Is your e-mail server running in a Demilitarized
 GM>> Zone?
 FV> My system runs Win98 with Windows' Internet Connection Sharing
 FV> providing the NAT routing/firewall.

That should cover the software aspect...  Hardware router?

 FV> All ports that are not used for the BBS are blocked.

There is a file that can be used to turn off unnecessary ports; what is the
name?

           Cheers ... Gerald

... It was at that point I realized ... I didn't want a pickle.
--- GoldED+/DPMI32 v1.1.5-040330 [msg of January 28, 2005]
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