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Skriven 2009-09-18 16:06:42 av Russell Tiedt (5:7105/1)
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Hello Maurice.

16 Sep 09 16:53, you wrote to me:

 >> Right, I have a Sandisk 512MB micro SD card, in a Verbatim adapter

 MK> I ran into the same problem as you with the onboard sd card reader. I
 MK> can make ramdisks work there but because of the limited ram the two
 MK> neighbours in question won't be able to get all the crow bait they
 MK> need in there.  I was toying with the idea of the initrd method
 MK> instead but given their overwhelming neediness I haven't bothered.
 MK> Also I lack a proper 32 bit development platform at the moment and to
 MK> be honest that isn't hurting my feelings any since the p3's.

Okay ...

 >> apparently a BIOS update will fix that

 MK> If you decide to pursue that route let me know how it works out and
 MK> I'll pass the word down the line.  My best guess at this moment is the
 MK> 915 chipsets on there are a tad out of sync usb-wise with later
 MK> chipsets. The Atom here is 945 and is capable of booting a fully
 MK> bloated system off usb drives, including flash and regular hd's.  It
 MK> also can boot ide and I assume sata based flash disks without any
 MK> grief.  Same with the xeon guy.  However neither care to boot the
 MK> overbloated systems but they can if they want to.  Haven't tried sd
 MK> cards on either as I lack the interface for them at the moment.  Not
 MK> convinced I need to but maybe.

I will try that sometime, when I play with it again, currently doing a lot of 
reading with regard to my new sound card ... , and playing with it ... <BG>

 MK> Anyhow, as is, you should have no problem booting a ttylinux into ram
 MK> on your eeepc as is.  The current kernel lacks the L2 driver for the
 MK> network chip as well as the wireless ath5k but we could take care of
 MK> that quite readily if you want to go that route.  You definetly have
 MK> more than enough ram for this idea and the Sandisk 512MB micro SD card
 MK> is overkill but then again that will leave you with much free disk
 MK> space for whatever else you may wish it for.

Only wish for it, is as a remote for my music server, or just maybe as the 
music server itself ... , and that would need networking preferably wireless 
...

 >> you can run multiple instances of it on different ports ...

 MK> Interesting but I am not sure why you need to do that if you're
 MK> targetting a player as opposed to a server.

Well, you might want classical music in the lounge rock music somewhere else 
and Jazz in some other location ... , and the server is there to serve music 
... , hopefully where ever required ...

 >> FTP is after all, a file transfer protocol, but sshfs, allows
 >> accessing the files as if they where on a local HDD, you can edit,
 >> save copy, etc, as if they where local

 MK> Understood but for a player I don't think any of it will be needed.
 MK> Also sshfs requires glib which causes suspicion to rise with me since
 MK> that is the one dependency that causes a system to become overbloated
 MK> once it sinks in as a needed dependency.  The evilness seems to begin
 MK> with glib or so I've noticed.

Hmmm ... , well, that might end up being a necessary evil ... :-(( , but if 
only Linux systems are taken into consideration, it could concievably end up 
smaller than SAMBA and/or NFS ...

 >> no need to ftp them to a local directory, edit, and ftp
 >> back to source

 MK> And exactly how or why is any of that is important to a player?
 MK> Somewhere I seem to have gotten my wires crossed with the original
 MK> intent.

Well, there be a lot of players that have remote controls ... (?) :-)

 MK> Yeah.  The connectors would probably be the issue.  I know when I
 MK> connected the turntable to the revolution I had problems with a couple
 MK> of different rca <-> minijact adapters until stumbling onto the
 MK> 'right' one. Also I upgraded the alsa stuff here which made a HUGE
 MK> difference once I got the hardware issues resolved.  However the 182
 MK> is different since it has the proper connectors to start with.  Which
 MK> kernel version and alsa versions are you using?

Kernel version is 2.26.27-14-generic Ubuntu kernel for now, on Ubuntu 8.10, 
which I am using as training wheels for now, till I figure out how to play 
with alsa, not sure whichversion I currently have installed ... , and so far 
have not found a way to make it tell me ...

Also ecasound has been highly reccomended, i.e. pipe, alsa's output via 
ecasound for best quality sound ... , am still reading ...


 MK> I just started a new one that I am testing so if you could wait a
 MK> couple days I might have a better answer.  If you're going to *need*
 MK> things like sox and/or ecasound then I'll have to add g++ to the
 MK> development system and that will cost me around 20-30M of real estate
 MK> but offhand I am sure it is doable.  Not sure what it'll end up
 MK> costing on the target but given the last build which was sitting
 MK> around 42M I am guessing it'll take up the elbow room for a 64M
 MK> ramdisk so it looks to me like you'll need a 128M one.  I imagine the
 MK> Sandisk 512MB micro SD card is looking more attractive to this
 MK> particular idea eh?  However then you would need an adapter for ide to
 MK> pull that off on the p3 target. I haven't ever seen one of those but
 MK> have seen sata ones for sd.

Well, I still have a lot of reading to do, especially on one thread on a forum 
I just found, 135 pages starting way back in 2005 ... , and am currently on 
page 40 ... , but so far, it seems that sox and ecasound are required ...

I also think it would be a better idea to develop on another system to the one 
being used as server/player ... , unless this ends up on the 2 Gig. CF card I 
have ...

 >> Need a starting place to get this up to speed.


As for a target, the 2gig cfdisk ... , P3 - 512M RAM ...


Lets see what I can do, to add to your misery :-)

abcde

mpd -- compiled so that pipes work ...

cuetools

shntool

flac

wavpack

lltag

libmad

libsamplerate

libsndfile

libvorbis

ssh/sshd

vorbis-tools

cdparanoia

mkisofs

cdrecord

The above are for starters, I don't think there are many more I would want to 
add, but I also know the list of libraries is not complete. i.e ogg and 
tagging libraries. I think the above will read and play WAVE, FLAC, AIFF, MP3 
OGG APPLE-Lossless, and lossy formats (itunes) [ frown ] [ APE and WAVEPACK ], 
... ID3 and OGG tags. Should do it.

It has been awhile since I did any ripping, of CD's but the last three above 
was what I used, don't know if there are now "improved" accurate ripping 
programs, saw a referance to "CDkit" the other day ... for this purpose as I 
understood the context, have yet to look into it ...

 MK> Kids these days.

:::: very big sigh ::::

Just had a big stand-up fight with the older one's last night, not that I 
think it will help much, but I tried ... :::: another big sigh ::::

Russell

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