Text 15863, 108 rader
Skriven 2012-06-01 10:50:00 av Paul Quinn (3:640/384)
  Kommentar till text 15854 av Ed Vance (2287.fi-linux)
Ärende: Ubuntu and VBox
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Hi! Ed,

In a message to All you wrote:

 EV> I tried using VBox today.   And failed.

There are no failures, Ed.  Just learning experiences.  Now, you did this on
your Windows machine?  Using the latest VirtualBox for Windows? ...

 EV> 1st I tried U'u 10.04 LTS's .iso with the OS setting of Other.
 EV> 2nd I tried U'u 10.04 LTS's .iso with the Linux 1.6 setting for the
 EV> OS. 3rd I tried U'u 7.04 .iso with the Linux 1.6 setting for the 
 EV> OS.
 EV> I failed everytime, so I deleted all of the VMs.

Something didn't work as expected.  There are no failures, Ed.  You have to
approach the PC, confident in the knowledge that "you are the boss and you will
get your way in the end".  "You are a winner"!

 EV> I supposed giving them 512MB RAM and 4GB hard drive space would be
 EV> enough but i know that I don't know what I'm doing.

Yes, that's fine for a U'u test VM.  BTW, you can dangle that config at U'u
like a carrot on a stick, but you don't have to actually let it have its way
with the stuff.  You only lose the stuff if you ever decide to install the
thing in the VM.

 EV> U'u 10.04 LTS Live CD just shows the U'u symbol at the bottom of the
 EV> screen for a few seconds and then everything goes dark.

Mmm... not a good sign.  I've seen things like that here too.  And not just
with U'u; other disributions are just as bad.  Don't fret about it.

 EV> The U'u 7.04 Live CD starts up just fine and I played with it a bit
 EV> today. I was surprised 7.04 didn't work for me in VBox.

Way too old for the hardware presented by vBox... probably (five years PC
evolution since that vBox version).

 EV> While using 7.04 I tried the various commands in Terminal that were
 EV> suggested to me recently, all but two worked fine, the others needed
 EV> additional packages but I didn't attempt installing them since I was
 EV> using a Live CD.

I'm surprised that it worked for you outside of vBox.

 EV> I learned that U'u doesn't like the ESC key being used to back out of
 EV> a help or info screen.

Not important.  (Any paging in a terminal prompt is based on the 'more' filter
[just like MS-DOS's "more"], or more likely, it's based on the 'less' filter
which is a little more friendly with the ability to go backwards and forwards
through a displayed text using the [PageUP]&[PageDown] keys.  Hit 'q' to quit
either of them.)

 EV> d to go back to the start, and q to quit is what I learned to use,
 EV> instead of just panicing and closing a Terminal window.

Yes.  (I didn't know about 'd' but it ain't important.)

 EV> I started out using the free command and then I wanted to see if I
 EV> could figure out how to Redirect the Standard Output to a file.
 EV> About an hour or so later after reading a lot, I learned cp should be
 EV> the command to use, but I was tired of too much learning and shut
 EV> down.
 EV> When I try 7.04 again how would I Redirect the output of free to a
 EV> directory on the XP hard drive.
 EV> Would it be something like I would do at a XP CMD prompt such as:

 free >> HP_PAVILION/directory/sub-directory/filename

 EV> HP_Pavilion is the name of the hard disk Volume.

At this point you are running the live CD on your machine with -NO- vBox in
use?!?  Yes?  Yep, so long as the volume is "mounted" in U'u, that will do it
for you however just use a single redirection symbol and get used to putting
the symbol right up close to the redirection path just like Doug suggested (so
that a redirected target doesn't end up with a [Space] char as part of the
pathname).

 EV> Also today I found a list of bash commands that I printed out in
 EV> 2008.
 EV> I also saw a listing of bash commands after typing something like
 EV> bash --help  I would like to print that on my printer or save to a
 EV> file but after trying for a while I gave up.

Just save it as a file first, like the 'free' redirection.  Redirect the 'bash'
help to a file and print it later in Windows.

NB.  I'm not giving you permission to blow away another forest in order to
print these things.  I learned my lesson on this back in 1990-something when I
printed the Telix for DOS 3.15 manual.  A week later version 3.20 was released.
 In the end what I had was a bundle of dead trees in my hand that was useless
for anything other than as scrap paper for my two little girls to draw
squiggley pictures on.  Since then I've preferred to have documentation
on-screen (as either text files or PDF files), right up beside where I'm
working on the PC.  But, that's just me.

 EV> I will try again.   Maybe I'll try VBox with U'u 12.04 LTS if I find
 EV> the ROUNDTUIT to download the .iso file.

Yes, yes.  This is good, Ed.  Never let the machine win.

Cheers,
Paul.

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