Text 16216, 66 rader
Skriven 2013-01-13 10:53:40 av Nicholas Boel (1598.linux)
  Kommentar till text 16208 av Maurice Kinal (1:261/38.9)
Ärende: it is all greek to me
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  Re: it is all greek to me
  By: Maurice Kinal to Nicholas Boel on Sun Jan 13 2013 07:07 am

 MK> The main reason for this is that the optimizations I use - pure 64 bit -
 MK> are much improved in 4.6 snapshots than they are in 4.6.3, or any other
 MK> gcc stable release no matter what branch (eg 4.7).

Ah okay. That would definitely be a good reason.

 NB>> IMO, they should provide a small .ISO to start with

 MK> They do have a CD install.  I've never tried it myself but have built my
 MK> own usb flash disk boot systems that could be used to build a new LFS
 MK> system.  I've yet to actually do that though but it should work.

Yep. I took at look at that CD install, and the first link you get is "This
will not work with LFS 7.0 or later." So it's obviously outdated.

They basically tell you to use another distro in order to start your LFS build.
I just find that odd that they pawn you off onto another distro first, before
explaining their way of doing things. :)

 MK> I have a neighbour that does that with Slackware.  He is happy with it and
 MK> has been doing it that way for a couple of years now.  However he still
 MK> keeps most of the dependencies that Slackware requires so I honestly don't
 MK> see the advantage of it other than it keeps him on his toes about what he
 MK> thinks is happening there.  ;-)

If he's still keeping most of the dependencies Slackware requires, then he's
probably still using ports. This is the opposite of what I was getting at.

Say, for example, I chose Gentoo. I start with a minimal .iso where I have the
bare essentials to start building my system. I create partitions and chroot
into the new environment in order to set it up. From there, I choose NOT to use
the package manager, and just compile everything from source. Isn't that
basically what LFS is all about? 

I just don't get how basically the first step they tell you, is to download
some other random distro to get started with this one. That's kinda wonky, IMO.
If they provided a small .iso (that actually worked with the current LFS
building documentation) so you could get started, instead of starting to read
the book, and then having to go track down <insert random distro here> only to
go back to that book to continue onward. 

I don't know. I'm probably overreacting like crazy about it, I just found it
completely amusing and it was very unexpected, to say the least.

 MK> thus later a GUI such as xorg.  Since just after Dec 26, 2011 none of this
 MK> has mattered enough to prompt me to do anything meaningful about it.  utf8
 MK> works great which was on my todo list back then.  It took awhile but I got
 MK> there.

 MK> How about you?  ;-)

Heh, unfortunately these days my todo list doesn't have much to do with
computers, so I try to keep some interest but also need some ease with the
least amount of headaches involved. I was actually going to start an LFS build
last night, until I ran into the part they told me to go grab another distro.
That abruptly stopped me from what I was trying to accomplish. I just haven't
let that go and moved on yet. Still makes me giggle. :)

Regards,
Nick

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