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Skriven 2021-09-09 05:17:22 av Brad Hansen (1734.linux)
  Kommentar till text 21329 av Alexey Vissarionov (2:5020/545)
Ärende: Old Distro Broken Browser
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  Re: Old Distro Broken Browser
  By: Alexey Vissarionov to Brad Hansen on Sun Aug 29 2021 11:55 am

 >AV  What prevents just recompiling these programs? On better systems, that
may be done with a single run of rpmbuild. On really good systems, the packages
are rebuilt in a clean

Think about it.. most major changes installs want 2 things - apt update and apt
upgrade then pull in your browser.
Kind of hard to do if your current system relies on your current libraries.

It's retro old stuff not availiable on internet built to specfic so lib
My memory is not like it used to be.. You ever spend hours on a project and
think to yourself
how did I do that.. Or type so much stuff you really don't rememeber what you
did.  It just
started working and you wowed yourself but really didn't take any notes....

It's a Ubuntu Linux Server.
It's Vintage Computing, Like this BBS your on.
I get that, an update to what's out would fix it.
Linux Runs fine on my VM..no problems  my Vintage stuff will not run on a
updated distro.

I was asking, is there any Browsers that have SSL lib built in that don't rely
on updated system files or kernel.

>AV fresh-installed environment from a git tag to the binary archive (.rpm)
with one single command.

   Tried that like you said it is built against the libssl, won't let me update
because it wants to
   update the whole system.  I have tried to update SSL. you can make a mess
out of it by not using apt,
   I am running stuff I compiled from way back that my Vintage Game Server
uses, it is far more important.
   updates will break everything. running apt-get upgrade would make it far
worse.
   Most of it that is server releated runs better then a modern current release
of 20.04 I have 2 VM's of the
   most current version.  Even doing updates, still breaks stuff.  Akonadi
server was common to break after an update.



>AV There's only one real browser, and it could be rebuilt that way. Also, it's
possible to keep several versions of OpenSSL (libcrypto+libssl) in one system
simultaneously (0.9, 1.0, 1.1.0
  and 1.1.1).


I'm not sure how that works against a way older kernel.

> Build it. However, deb-based systems are very unfriendly in that.
 Your not kidding...

 > No: browsers are linked against libcrypto+libssl.
I get that.. The only real fix is to update to latest release.

Again, Breaks stuff.

 > With regularly updated OpenSSL - never.
 >  BH> Good look trying to get into irc.freenode.net they got taken over and
deleted a bunch of accounts mine was one of the firsts, almost 18 year
 >  BH> old account and was deleted

Apparently you haven't been on irc.freenode.net  they have new owners and
deleted every single user account and all channels forcing you to reregister
and use SSL..
My account went back to when IRC started and probably log onto IRC more then
you.  It was everybody.  And they went to a SSL Key exchange system.
It's not that default linux server you log into.
Again, killing old outdated systems.. starting with non current SSL.

 > Deleting inactive users is normal.

 > You had a plenty of time to update your system.
 > No: that was you who killed your pretty system.
 Yeah, I proably should have been updating to the most current stuff to protect
me, from me.
 Face it most updates are there to protect flaws.
 I bet my Older Server does more stuff correctly and easily then your most
modern updated one.
 Updates tend to change how things are configured that your used to doing.


Yup - Again making IRC compatiable with Mobile users and getting rid of the
need to /msg NickServ identify was the main goal.
The Old school way of /msg NickServ on freenode is gone.  Again.. Any Older
Vintage Computer is done logging into IRC.  Until you install
the latest.
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