Text 3417, 75 rader
Skriven 2005-09-26 16:45:22 av Maurice Kinal (1:261/38.9)
   Kommentar till text 3408 av MARTIN ATKINS (1:123/140)
Ärende: software for linspire
=============================
Hey MARTIN!

Sep 26 10:06 05, MARTIN ATKINS wrote to MAURICE KINAL:

 MA> The GUI dialer is called KPPP and on my systems it doesn't require 
 MA> setserial.

Can it set the base baudrate of the port it is using?  I am not sure it needs
to for this particular usage but I would imagine that there would, or at least
should, be some simularity to setserial built into kppp.  I don't use kde so I
am not sure but I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to find out what kde
does with serial connections/hardware.

 MA> I searched my setups and i don't even have setserial installed.

Then you'd be limited to whatever software uses serial connections and
hopefully these people know what you need to happen, hardware-wise.  Again, I
refer to the gps reciever issue where a set base baud rate of 4800 is required
and is nonnegotiable.  Without the ability to set the baud rate of the ttyS*
assigned to the reciever then it is highly unlikely it'll ever 'work' (it works
but you won't be getting any good IO from it, mostly gibberish if indeed
anything).  Also the control codes the hardware uses to set whatever will be
unaccessable, even to root.  Personally I'd include setserial and then use that
to establish communications to whatever hardware and let the apps that use that
hardware do their job afterwards.

setserial is a keeper.  :-)

 MA> I 
 MA> think
 MA> you may need it though for PNP cards. I can't quite work out if Tom
 MA> has an internal or external modem. He has however indicated that it's 
 MA> Hayes compatible.

It probably is.  As far as any pci based modem I still maintain that it is a
waste of a perfectly good pci slot.  I would argue that a firewire, or simular
interface, would be a better usage/investment of a 32-bit pci slot.  A modem
either belongs on a 16-bit ISA bus or a serial port (external).  pci is
overkill for those and is wasteful, besides the fact that pci modems as a rule
being garbage (software driven).  They are a complete waste of money and time.

 MA> I use Mandrake and i think it uses 
 MA> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0
 MA> for authentication and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 
 MA> for setting the modem stuff if you are not using KPPP.

What about everything else serial that doesn't require ppp?  It seems Mandrake
is suffering from tunnel vision wrt serial hardware and programming.

 MA> If he is using KPPP then the configuration file is 
 MA> ~/.kde/share/config/kppprc and i assume this would be the same for 
 MA> any
 MA> Redhat type of distro.

That is probably very true except that then the kde libs and qt versions may
need to be considered.  I've seen kde apps that won't work across the distro
board depending on which releases of the dependancies are employed by any given
distro.

 MA> I got hold of Knoppix 3.9 the other day and as far as i can see it
 MA> is based on Dabian and KPPP uses 
 MA> /home/knoppix/.kde/share/config/kppprc

 MA> I couldn't find out what scripts it would use if the user was not 
 MA> using
 MA> KPPP but i would imagine a Dabian user could throw some light on the
 MA> subject.

Possibly.  For my money setserial is a keeper.  :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2
 * Origin: The Pointy Stick Society XV - Linux Point (1:261/38.9)