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Skriven 2005-09-28 11:54:00 av MARTIN ATKINS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MAURICE KINAL
Ärende: software for linspire
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-=> MAURICE KINAL wrote to MARTIN ATKINS <=-

 MK> Hey MARTIN!

 MK> Sep 26 10:06 05, MARTIN ATKINS wrote to MAURICE KINAL:

 MA> The GUI dialer is called KPPP and on my systems it doesn't require
 MA> setserial.

 MK> Can it set the base baudrate of the port it is using?  I am not sure it
 MK> needs to for this particular usage but I would imagine that there
 MK> would, or at least should, be some simularity to setserial built into
 MK> kppp.  I don't use kde so I am not sure but I suppose it wouldn't be
 MK> too difficult to find out what kde does with serial
 MK> connections/hardware.

KPPP uses pppd which can be manipulate by various scripts and
can also be configured by the command line. man pppd.

 MA> I searched my setups and i don't even have setserial installed.

 MK> Then you'd be limited to whatever software uses serial connections and
 MK> hopefully these people know what you need to happen, hardware-wise.
 MK> Again, I refer to the gps reciever issue where a set base baud rate of
 MK> 4800 is required and is nonnegotiable.  

gps? Global Positioning System? :-}

 MK> Without the ability to set the
 MK> baud rate of the ttyS* assigned to the reciever then it is highly
 MK> unlikely it'll ever 'work' (it works but you won't be getting any good
 MK> IO from it, mostly gibberish if indeed anything).  Also the control
 MK> codes the hardware uses to set whatever will be unaccessable, even to
 MK> root.  Personally I'd include setserial and then use that to establish
 MK> communications to whatever hardware and let the apps that use that
 MK> hardware do their job afterwards.

 MK> setserial is a keeper.  :-)

What about mgetty? ;)

 MA> I
 MA> think
 MA> you may need it though for PNP cards. I can't quite work out if Tom
 MA> has an internal or external modem. He has however indicated that it's
 MA> Hayes compatible.

 MK> It probably is.  As far as any pci based modem I still maintain that it
 MK> is a waste of a perfectly good pci slot.  I would argue that a
 MK> firewire, or simular interface, would be a better usage/investment of a
 MK> 32-bit pci slot.  A modem either belongs on a 16-bit ISA bus or a
 MK> serial port (external).  pci is overkill for those and is wasteful,
 MK> besides the fact that pci modems as a rule being garbage (software
 MK> driven).  They are a complete waste of money and time.

I have never had an internal modem and as far as i'm concerned they
are all a waste of slots, pci or isa. :-)

 MA> I use Mandrake and i think it uses
 MA> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0
 MA> for authentication and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0
 MA> for setting the modem stuff if you are not using KPPP.

 MK> What about everything else serial that doesn't require ppp?  It seems
 MK> Mandrake is suffering from tunnel vision wrt serial hardware and
 MK> programming.

Mouse? I think that's handled by the mouse driver. Fax is handled
by the modem nvram.

 MA> If he is using KPPP then the configuration file is
 MA> ~/.kde/share/config/kppprc and i assume this would be the same for
 MA> any
 MA> Redhat type of distro.

 MK> That is probably very true except that then the kde libs and qt
 MK> versions may need to be considered.  I've seen kde apps that won't work
 MK> across the distro board depending on which releases of the dependancies
 MK> are employed by any given distro.

 MA> I got hold of Knoppix 3.9 the other day and as far as i can see it
 MA> is based on Dabian and KPPP uses
 MA> /home/knoppix/.kde/share/config/kppprc

 MA> I couldn't find out what scripts it would use if the user was not
 MA> using
 MA> KPPP but i would imagine a Dabian user could throw some light on the
 MA> subject.

 MK> Possibly.  For my money setserial is a keeper.  :-)

I have never needed anything other than the modem string to control
serial speed. Usually the factory setting AT&F will do, or you can use
the NVRAM to store customized settings. I'm willing to bet Tom is
overlooking some setting with KPPP. If he would communicate how his 
KPPP dialer is set up i could walk him through the steps needed to
set up his modem. The trouble is he loses his temper and gives 
up. :-) I have asked him if he's using KPPP what com port the
modem is on and if it is Hayes compatible. His reply? Zilch,
nada, zero, sweet f.a. You can't help those that won't help 
themselves.  

:-}

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