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Skriven 2006-01-14 16:27:02 av James Bradley (1:134/77.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Maurice Kinal
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> Maurice Kinal wrote James Bradley <=

 MK> Will do ... if I survive it that is.

Ya, ya... You're on the *right* coast.<L>

 JB> I had my first look at links with this Gentoo "install.html". Maybe
 MK> Try the spacebar for paging.  That is the old fashioned way, decided

That's what I thought I was doing. The highlight on the link was activated by
the spacebar if IRR. Page down gave me half pages, and the ^/v arrow keys moved
to the next link. Left and right was scrolling through the history, so I just
found something that would put the info in front of me, and went with that.
Next time I may try the <ctrl-letter> navigation.

 MK> I thought you were an oldtimer at this?  What gives?  ;-)
"I've young blood. It's in an old container." -Skelton, Red

Just because I was able to install Sys V a few times, doesn't mean I actually
knew what I was doing. I didn't dust off the Mandrake CDs until about '02, and
maybe '03-04 did I start with anything current. I'm still on the steep end of
the curve. <DUH... +Rf/Cover |->
 JB> Because both are TTL devices; but the VGA needs two more
 JB> than does an RS232, no? Sure... And H-V sync is separate IIR.

 MK> At least.  I have the specs somewhere.  However a serial connection
 MK> can't do VGA but can do plain Jane black and white output which is
 MK> what I thought we were talking about.  For VGA (16 colour)
 MK> you'd need to output to two specially wired serial ports
 MK> and then write a driver to know how they are wired out.

 MK> Piece of cake!  :::snicker:::

Oh, let me warm up the soldering gun! Now, which end do I hold onto?

You bring the cake. <D!!!>

 MK> It can be done but if VGA is needed then I'd just use the
 MK> VGA port and nevermind little lcd displays.  You are
 MK> complicating things man!!!  They work just fine without VGA
 MK> on a standard serial port.
Now, you're talking terminals again, right? Unless it was the decrepit LCD, or
an old terminal I could spill some water in for a light show...

 JB> After the blurry eyed reading, the 'second head' indicates a second
 JB> vid card to the Linux camp, where the MS world calls a Herc
 JB> with a composite out, 'dual head'.

 MK> When I do a 'dmesg|less' and look for the relevant info I come up with;

I looked just earlier today, and beside the specific matroxfb, and the fb1
addition, we are pretty close from my recolection:
o/____________________________________________________________

Init... mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor 0: Matrox[...]MGA G400 AGP
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A]: no GSI
matroxfb: Matrox G400 (AGP) detected
matroxfb: MTRR's turned on
matroxfb: 640x480x8bpp (virtual: 640x26214)
matroxfb: framebuffer@0xEC000000, mapped->0xc8880000,size16777216
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
fb0: MATROX frame buffer device
matroxfb_crtc2: secondary head of fb0 was registered as fb1
vga16fb: initializing
vga16fb: mapped to 0xc00a0000
fb2: VGA16 VGA frame buffer device
_____________________________________________________________
My recolection was *almost* right. Now I recall, the "fb2". 

That aint right, is it? 

 MK> matroxfb: Matrox Millennium G200 (AGP) detected
 MK> PInS memtype = 3
 MK> matroxfb: MTRR's turned on
 MK> matroxfb: 1280x1024x16bpp (virtual: 1280x3276)
 MK> matroxfb: framebuffer at 0xD6000000, mapped to 0xd8880000, size 8388608
 MK> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
 MK> fb0: MATROX frame buffer device

 MK> I only have one head ... errr ... the Matrox that is, but
 MK> when I have two with the g400 it included a 'fb1:' part for
 MK> the second head.
That's a humm-Dinger. I'll let your 'significant other' know, when I show up
with the Port... I mean AT the port.<-;

 MK> Heh, heh.  I am not sure about any of that.  Right now I am growing my
 MK> own based on gcc-4.1 and fixing the nitpicky details as I go
 MK> along.  Looking pretty good right now.

 MK> Right.  It should be fb1.  fb0 should be the regular vga
 MK> head and the funky g400 breakout box connector fb1.  I got
 MK> the damn thing working ... once.  It was a pain for sure.

 JB> confused so far?
 MK> Probably.  :-)
If you need a wingnut to beta test your gcc device, I'll do my best to break
it. That you can be sure of. 

 MK> Did you build your own kernel?  You'll probably have to.
If you mean toggling those things @ menuconfig, I guess I did. There were
specific items about the G400 that I turned on, which I think included turning
the dongle on. "It was late on a foggy eavening, and Mr. Bradley was navigating
in deap waters..." 

It was turned on in my gmesg, right?

 JB> I'd need a matroxfb to have any success with it now.

 MK> Right.  You'll need a proper kernel.  If you want I could
 MK> sent you a config file for a 2.6 kernel that ought to work
 MK> spiffy for you.
I just used what came with 2.6.12-gentoo-6. Like I say, there was lots of
specifics about Matrox vid. About sending files, I *guess* you'd be able to
attach them to a netmail??? Never tried f-attach here. (Not my BBS, and no
I-Net to speak of.)

 MK>> I meant the 'Win98' part.  ;-)
 JB> What, are we comparing Apples to ... No wait...
 JB> Bananas to fertilizer... Er... Ah...

 MK> Whatever.  That is why I thought suggesting a better benchmark for all
 MK> this.
THe Apple reference was deliberate, BTW.

The BT device in the other box might come out of hybernation if I don't get
this one going. Do you recall what chipset Matrox use? THe xawe <?> setup, said
nothing about the card. And BTW, are we US-NTSC, or NTSC-<something else>? And
what the hill is the differnce with the US cable selection, and the US
cable<add letter here>?

 MK>> I like to call that 'networking'.  :-)
 JB> Oh... Send me one of THOSE. Two if they are cheaper that way!
 MK> Sure.  Maybe I'll write a book with lots of pretty pictures.  ;-)

Na, still wouldn't penetrate this numb-skull.
 (I know you were thinking it!;-)

 JB> ceramics-porcelain. Sure having fun 'spilling' things on the carpet
 JB> for the time being. <EG>

 MK> Sweet.
Sure is liberating! We spend a lifetime keeping the carpet tidy, and now I get
to *trash* it! More fun that taking the Sawz-all to the couch and loveseat.
<Ala Texas Chainsaw... Shoot, I should have used the chainsaw!>

 JB> WAY better than Amber.
 MK> The amber ones made my eyes bleed.
Thay can, with the right maniac in front of them. O-8*

 JB> You bring the Brandy, and I'll spit-shine the glasses. <G+D>
 MK> Single malt scotch and we'll consider it a done deal.
Gotta live sooner or later. 

I'd be baffled if there wasn't a LUG here, where I could rope me an expert.
(I've just read that Calgary was big into Linux encription schemes, from a UK
mag. of all things.)


PS: Don't go licking any Voltage doublers, will ya? At least put a fuse on it
first!

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