Text 5516, 126 rader
Skriven 2006-03-17 19:00:34 av Maurice Kinal (1:153/757.3)
   Kommentar till text 5515 av Paul Rogers (1:105/360.0)
Ärende: Anybody using famd & 2.6
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Hey Paul!

Mar 17 17:15 06, Paul Rogers wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 PR> It seemed like I/O was overlapping memory.  Maybe that was a
 PR> feature of EISA.

Could be.  Beats me all to heck as I have nothing here at the moment, or for
quite some time now that I think about it, that even knows what eisa is let
alone use it ... if I had it that is.

 PR> I figured it was an addressing problem, ala
 PR> Expanded-RAM, backed it off till it worked and called it good.

Right.  That is what I was thinking and why I suggested trying it with Linux to
see if the kernel could possibly tame it and make it useful again.  It has been
known to happen.

 PR> There's not much in a DOS/W31 system that will use anything
 PR> above the 16MB line anyway.

Or even know how to use it even if it could see it.  I think with even win98
more then 64M was a total waste even though it could see it and use it.  Seems
to me that it was inefficient above that, not to suggest that win98 is
efficient at all, nevermind memory. 

 PR> Since it runs DOS/W31 just as
 PR> good as always, even better when I got an Adaptec 1740, then
 PR> 2740, SCSI and a "HUGE" 1GB Seagate ST51080N, and then a 3COM
 PR> 3C579 NIC, I just left it alone doing the same things it has
 PR> done for the past 15 years.

I think that is the best idea.  Why screw up a working system?

 PR> That's long enough to run down
 PR> one of the Dallas Semiconductor 24-pin RTC/battery!

And then some.  Talk about an understatement.  ;-)

 PR> I use it every day.

Use it or lose it?

 PR> It has a SCSI tray adapter and I have two 2GB ST32105N(IIRC)
 PR> that will run either NT/4WS or RHL6.1, but it's powered down
 PR> most of the time.

I have six 2G here not even powered up.  I'd open one of the trays to give you
specs etc. but it is a bit of a hassel and I doubt important enough at the
moment.  Whatever they are they were all good when I checked them on the DEC
external scsi array.  I made sure they were clean and ready for action
(mke2fs).

 MK>> I've run across a few.  Hard to come by that is for sure.

 PR> In '91?!?!?!?!

Probably a little later then that but I am sure no later the 95.  93-ish sounds
about right but I do know I was looking for them sooner then that so that
fortran had extra to chew on at the time.  The ones I had I gave up to a
project a friend's son was working on about 5-8-ish years ago.  They helped him
greatly so I figured it was a worthy cause.

 PR> to work."  I just looked in the manual and it claims it should
 PR> work up to 64MB, but then there's a jumper for the segment
 PR> 13MB-15MB cacheable or not, so maybe it's just something about
 PR> the EISA configuration.

I wouldn't bet on that but possibly ... I guess.  Myself I would try booting a
linux kernel and see what that says.

 PR> I've got a couple FIC PT-2200 HX chipset boards, one that had
 PR> a bad SIMM pin, and the serial ports don't work on the other.

Always something eh?

 PR> I know I can desolder and swap the SIMM pin.  You learn a few
 PR> things when you assembled your first computer like a Heathkit!

:-)  I never did that but I was tempted to way back then.

 PR> (Hmmm, or is it a ISA socket finger?  No, I think that's one of
 PR> these SuperMicro boards.)

Hm.

 PR> You should see some others I've got.

I wouldn't mind.  My neighbour would probably drool over the opportunity.  That
guy seems to be easily enamoured with things I call 'recycleable'.

 PR> A local company called
 PR> Memory-Time made some boards that you could solder 1MB 16-pin
 PR> DIP's on, and a buddy in LA sent me an old VAX memory board
 PR> just loaded with 'em.  Get out the blowtorch and knock 'em
 PR> out.  Got 8MB of those!

I am sure I've seen those.

 PR> Gawd!  Ain't the history of computing wonderful?

:::shudder:::  Errrrrr ... something like that.

 PR> I started on
 PR> a 2nd generation IBM in '66 (see website).

I wasn't into computers then.  Tomcatting yes.  Computers no.

 PR> switches to boot!  I'm getting all teary-eyed.  None of these
 PR> kids today give us a bit of credit for experience, but it's
 PR> them I feel sorry for.

Exactly.  I agree 100%.  All MS has done was to create a generation of people
pointing and clicking their way to obscurity.

 PR> Computing's part of my life.  I've got to have something that
 PR> works!  I learned how to do single point of failure analysis,
 PR> and to take steps to avoid 'em.

You'd fit in perfectly here at Coffin Point.

Life is good,
Maurice

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