Text 8390, 91 rader
Skriven 2006-12-10 02:40:08 av Maurice Kinal (1:261/38.9)
   Kommentar till text 8389 av Paul Rogers (1:105/360.0)
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Hey Paul!

Dec 09 10:39 06, Paul Rogers wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 PR> I'm definitely "old school",

Me too except I am not as resistant to change if I see something of interest -
interest being something good ot that looks like it has potential towards
goodness.

 PR> Heck, I
 PR> still have a dozen reels of 9-track tapes containing stuff I
 PR> really wanted to keep, IBM's FORTRAN Scientific Subroutine
 PR> Package, et al.

And that is of current usabilty how?

 PR> I've got a (fubar) diskette for DOS I really
 PR> like for rescuing sick machines.

Nothing could be that sick and if it were it is time to seriously thinking
about doing the right thing and put the machine out of it's misery.  It is a
sign.

 PR> Only a Knoppix CD for linux
 PR> and that's way too much heavyweight overkill.

I've abandoned CDs after seeing a few bootable DVDs.  Nothing of interest there
methinks.

 PR> I want more tools
 PR> and HW diagnostics for linux if I'm going to go that direction.
 PR> Know any equivalents to Norton Diagnostics & AMIDIAG for linux?

Nope.  I use dd mostly for checking out disks and hope that whatever kernel I
boot can keep track of everything else.  So far the strategy has worked
although every now and then the strategy can fail.  I have yet to find a disk
that dd can't find bad blocks/sectors on even though other utilities can
completly miss the badness.  dd is my friend and I have yet to find anything
better overall.

 PR> This morning I did one last check.  I'm going to give uClibc a
 PR> whirl and see what I can build.

Me too but I am still not quite ready.  One more anomaly to hopefully fix
before tackling something different.  I am hopeful things will be okay sometime
next week and then we'll see.  I am confident it'll happen.

 PR> LEAF uses "build-tool", "build-
 PR> package" (which aren't quite RPM, but going that way with config
 PR> files and tweaked makefiles), and a whole tool-chain.

Okay.  Personally I am not a fan of robotization but do appreciate suggested
usages.

 PR> What I figure on doing is use their kernel, uClibc, modules,
 PR> Busybox, and programs, maybe borrow a setup idea or two, but
 PR> cut out all the router stuff & repackage things--basically what
 PR> I did with Trinux.

Sounds interesting.

 PR> They use a 1680KB floppy they need so much
 PR> stuff.

They can keep it.  I've noticed simular stuff talking about flash disks
recently instead.  It is about time!!!  Man are they ever behind.  ;-)

 PR> directory entries.  Here's what I found this morning:
 PR> Trinux
 PR> ld-2.1.3.so             79276
 PR> libc-2.1.3.so         1013224
 PR> LEAF
 PR> ld-uClibc-0.9.20.so     16028
 PR> lib-uClibc-0.9.20.so   233764

Big difference.  I think I'll probably stick it out with glibc in spite of the
above as it often is worth the extra bytes.  However I would like to check
uClibc out again and give it a fair shake.  There are certain things I need to
have happen that most minimalized systems seldom, if ever, take care of.  I am
not sure if uClibc can handle it but if it can then the idea just might be
worth pursuing.

As for boot floppies;  I don't miss them whatsoever.  I ain't going back that
far especially since they were crap right from the start.

Life is good,
Maurice

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