Text 157, 110 rader
Skriven 2004-10-02 15:45:12 av Maurice Kinal (1:153/401.1)
    Kommentar till text 156 av MICHEL SAMSON (1:10/345)
Ärende: Kermit, BBS UNIVERSALITY
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Hey MICHEL!

Oct 02 15:45 04, MICHEL SAMSON wrote to MAURICE KINAL:

 MS>      Indeed.  :)  Many years ago i verified that even minimally 
 MS> equipped
 MS> PCs allow networked messaging and i share my experience whenever 
 MS> there's
 MS> an opportunity - which is what i refer to as promoting UNIVERSAL 
 MS> BBSing.

Understood.  The problem with "universality" these days is that often the
standard ports, telnet being one of them, are being blocked by those supposedly
looking after our "security".  Funny thing about that is that my little server
is far more reliable then the dhcp server looking after business in this neck
of the woods.  99.99% of the connectivity problems are due to the cable server
going down and not this little 486-33 Linux server.

 MS>      The `RIME_DOS' EchoMail should be accessible to you on these 
 MS> BBSes:

Sure.  One problem with that is I don't like DOS.  Far too crippled for my
needs for a server.  How are the rest going to like when I bad mouth their OS
of choice?  Can they handle "criticism", especially my version of it?

 MS>      I discovered that you're located in British Columbia but there's 
 MS> no
 MS> BBS at telnet://24-dot-108-dot-41-dot-234:23 just yet;

That is correct.  Can you handle a different port?

 MS> You must know it can be faster to get 
 MS> in
 MS> touch with me via EchoMail (since i don't check ~E-Mail~s very 
 MS> often)...

Same here but my email address is tothings@minimalinux.org and is probably a
more private and secure way of exchanging information such as passwords.

 MS>      I'm sorry to mention `RIME' in this `FidoNet' echo, by the way!  

Don't be.  I don't believe they are a threat or competition to Linux.  The
moderator might feel different but I personally don't.  Knowing my experiences
sith DOS and Linux I doubt anyone there could persuade me to return to DOS. 
What for?  They got squat in comparison to Linux.

 MS>      So...  :)  Is the Shaw cable company OKay with you running 
 MS> servers?

They have no say.  They aren't paying for any of them.  None of my servers
service cable and I have no plans in that direction unless they start paying
for it.  I pay for the service they provide here which is just a connection to
the outside world.  I don't even use their email service so they are getting
the better end of this deal methinks.

 MS>      Something tells me we're talking ~SSH~ all the sudden.  If it's 
 MS> the
 MS> case then i'm afraid no single pure DOS client will include `Kermit' 
 MS> and
 MS> ~SSH~ simultaneously anytime soon!

Ah!  Too bad.  Another good reason not to use it.  Why do you?  What benefits
are there to using DOS?

 MS> i'll need to verify that it would allow `Kermit' over 
 MS> ~SSH~;

While reading the docs I noted that it would employ the openssl libs here so
they got compiled in.  I could also switch telnet access to a different port if
you can handle that.  Apparently that will work here since I can alter the
ports, as well as the interface(s), any daemon listens in on.

 MS> if i must rely on ~SSH~ sessions lets hope it's there!!!  Under DOS, 
 MS> the
 MS> Virtual ~TelNet~ MoDem is `RLFossil' instead of `COM/IP' but 
 MS> performance
 MS> is similar, `COM/IP' is newer and has more features than `RLFossil' 
 MS> so i
 MS> figure ~SSH~ is probably one of them.  If ~TelNet~ is OKay, don't 
 MS> worry!

Sure.  We may need to get creative but only due to limitations of the silly
servers in between us.  Apparently they call that "security".  Please pardon my
French but I call it bullshit.  :-)

 MS>      I'll be glad to give it a shot!  8-)  Of course, the cps rate i 
 MS> can
 MS> reach on a 8088 4.77 Mhz is going to be about a few hundreds, it's a 
 MS> few
 MS> thousands on a '486 (still over DialUp) and more than 10 thousand if 
 MS> you
 MS> can fully exploit my most performant `Kermit' setup (over 128 Kbps 
 MS> ~DSL~
 MS> on a P-200 Mhz).  Once done, we'll publish a "Ready-Made" SysOp kit!  
 MS> :)

We'll see.  Email me and we'll decide on a simple test and see where that goes.
 I see no valid reason we can't tweak some additional preformace out of the
8088.

 MS> is called weird evangelism by SysOps like, say, Rob Swindell 
 MS> anyway?!...

I've seen an example of his work.  He doesn't worry me.

Life is good,
Maurice

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2
 * Origin: Coffin Point - Ladysmith, BC Canada (1:153/401.1)