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Skriven 2004-10-03 22:40:00 av MICHEL SAMSON (1:10/345)
     Kommentar till en text av MAURICE KINAL
Ärende: Kermit, BBS UNIVERSALITY
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Hi Maurice,

     About "Kermit, BBS UNIVERSALITY" of September 2 and 3:

MS> ...minimally equipped PCs allow networked messaging...
MK> ...often the standard ports...  ...are being blocked...  Here is
MK> what I've figured out so far about IKSD...  The default port is...

     Some times unexpected misunderstanding happens, that's one of them:
from my perspective, `C-Kermit' wasn't meant to be more than an external
file-transfer protocol driver for a BBS!  You got me surprized somewhat.

                                  ;-)

MK> I would appreciate your input.
MS> The `RIME_DOS' EchoMail should be accessible to you...
MK> ...I don't like DOS.  Can they handle "criticism"...

     There's no need to start a discussion if you only wish to inform us
that your BBS is ready for a visit.  Winston may decide to join in but i
can't answer in his name, i just know i'll be there for the tuning if it
doesn't matter to you that the ~IKSD~ server isn't going to be involved.

MK> What benefits are there to using DOS?  ...I doubt anyone there could
MK> persuade me to return to DOS.

     It would be pointless to launch this sort of thread here!!!  :>  No
urge to convert you back to DOS in order to get `Kermit' support:  i bet
on the `Linux'/`C-Kermit' combination for superior results, actually!...

                                  B-)

MK> I don't have any DOS...  
MS> I'll be glad to give it a shot!  ...we'll publish...
MK> I could also switch telnet access to a different port if you can
MK> handle that.  We may need to get creative...

     If you're writing about making a BBS out of `IKSD' this may be more
creative than i could have imagined, this has little to do with the Look
and Feel of DialUp BBSing - unless you got a surprize in reserve???  :^)

MS> ...there's no BBS at telnet://24-dot-108-dot-41-dot-234:23...
MK> That is correct.  Can you handle a different port?      ^^

       Ports are one thing;  i'm getting worried about what BBS SoftWare
you have at the moment.  I can specify port numbers both with `RLFossil'
or `COM/IP', i can ~TelNet~ as needed and i also got a backup ~ISP~.  :)

MS> ...i don't check ~E-Mail~s very often...
MK> ...address is tothings at minimalinux dot org...  ...more private...

     I'd suggest we meet in a local message-base if privacy is required,
i no longer publish ready-to-use ~E-Mail~ addresses but it's easy enough
to filter extraneous strings from my contact page's mail:// link...  ;-)

MS> Is the Shaw cable company OKay with you running servers?
MK> They have no say.  None of my servers service cable...

     Your 1st reply got me puzzled, the last one made things clear:  i'm
considering the BBS as a server while you seem to have `IKSD' in mind...

MS> ...authors/SysOps on whom we depended for this hobby embraced a
MS> technological spiral...  Why care to make SoftWare efficient...
MS> ...especially when asking users to UpGrade is "cool" and promoting
MS> `Kermit' is called weird evangelism by SysOps like, say, Rob...
MK> I've seen an example of his work.

     We saw some of his fellows in action as well and they're a peculiar
model of objectivity...  But take Swindell 1st:  he made and published a
`Kermit' setup-file in a matter of hours, last year!!!  It's no wonder i
heard of SysOps who had trouble with it twice this summer!  %-b,  He has
insisted that i must provide my own .INI to him, i submitted what i have
worked on for years and he rejected it as soon as it arrived:  very slow
on what matters but expeditive on the rest!  He thought i'd fail, i say.

MK> ...I don't see where universality fits in here.  Needs a bit of work
MK> on the terminal end of things.  However they are lightyears ahead of
MK> any other BBS package I have ever seen in that regard.

     Some BBSers may appreciate, few SysOps should notice it at all:  if
we get `C-Kermit' to work as an internal protocol driver, only the BBSer
will notice (to you it's just another file transfer, which is OKay).  :)

MK> Not too shabby for Yankees eh?
MS> Yankee Kermit grew stronger while ZMoDem slaves prayed to end misery
MK> Needs a bit of work on the terminal...  However they are lightyears
MK> ahead of any other BBS package...  zmodem died over a decade ago.

     Check this one, it's funny...  I tried to fix Rob's unfinished work
no later than this afternoon (Wayne Warthen's `Kermit for Windows' hangs
the session since his loose install does no error traping);  my touched-
up version now appears in the `FdN_Windows' echo for all to see, look at
the comment of another guy who specializes in providing more bad advice:

          http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/windows/

_______________Gregg Somes about "SBBS/W32 Kermit install" (Oct-3-2004)_
GS> Kermit is mature, yes, so is my great grandfather, and equally DEAD!
GS> Wake up and smell the stench of a new mellium, use Zmodem.

                                    Salutations,  ;-)

                                    Michel Samson
                                    a/s Bicephale
                                    http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/


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