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Skriven 2010-07-08 18:18:10 av Mike Luther (1:117/3001.0)
   Kommentar till text 1468 av Mike Tripp (1:382/61)
Ärende: Clone systems with USB stick?
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Hi Mike ..

 MT> 05 Jul 10 21:31, Mike Luther wrote to All:

 ML> Does anyone here have any experience in the raw use of a USB stick
 ML> that could be used in place of a USB adapter that is equipped with a
 ML> hard drive inside it to clone systems?

 MT> Booting thumb drives just needs BIOS support on the 
 MT> system in question.  I boot DOS from a thumb drive and 
 MT> load Netware from the HD on my file server.  BIOS has 
 MT> an option for the thumb drive to appear as floppy, 
 MT> large floppy/ZIP, or HD.

 MT> No way, Jose, on other systems with older BIOS...regardless of OS.

This is not at all about booting anything directly from this device. What we
are talking about is, for example, taking a complete OS/2 system of several
partitions.  From a complete shutdown, we place a USB device with a hard drive
inside it into a USB plug,  We take a plain DOS boot diskette with DFSEE on it
and all the DFSEE DOS stuff on that floppy. We boot the box to plain old DOS
with that floppy.  Then we see that the original OS/2 complete system is in
what DFSEE knows is 'Drive 1' in DFSDOS.EXE from that DOS boot run.  As well,
with a blank USB disk box that has a new blank drive in it, you will simply see
'Disk 2' in the DFSEE tool.  You choose an option to CLONE things.  At that
point you simply CLONE 'Disk 1' to 'Disk 2' complete just as the screen shows.

When you have a new box that the system will run in, or at least boot so you
can shuffle whatever around, you then jam the CLONE drive you just made into
the new box.  You boot DOS the same way on it.  You run DFSDOS and this time
you CLONE 'Disk 2' to 'Disk 1' and shut things down.  You push the POWER on
button with the USB device out of the slot and the floppy out of the drive.

           POOF!  Up comes a completely perfect running new box.
                Of course it is a perfect copy of the other.

Now .. a second technique works from this as well.  Suppose you have a SCSI
system.  Instead of a USB device, you just jam another hard drive of some kind
that the to be cloned box will support into it.  Same stunt with DFSEE for DOS.
 And whatever cloned hard drive you have into which that desired image was
stored is done the same way into a NEW box with a completely clean new drive,
do the same stunt.

           POOF!  Up comes a completely perfect running new box.
                Of course it is a perfect copy of the other.

Now .. a third technique works from this as well.  Suppose you have a SCSI
system you would like to move to a SATA system, and your device drivers on the
SCSI system will also support an SATA hard drive.  But there isn't one on it. 
OK, you can jam one .. or an IDE drive .. into the SCSI box when it is turned
off.  Jam the DOS floppy into it and boot it to DOS.  Use DFSDOS to play this
same copy stunt to IDE, SATA, USB with IDE drive in it; whatever.  Clone it. 
Then, take a new box that is *NOT* SCSI, but, say SATA.  Remember, the device
drivers in your cloned image have to be able to run the new box hard drive. 
Reverse clone this copy image to that new box, say an SATA box.

           POOF!  Up comes a completely perfect running new box.
                Of course it is a perfect copy of the other.

Then what you do is the complex, but absolutely works fine deal of editing all
the necessary network configuration files with a TEXT editor to handle the new
network ID and so on.  Bunch of files involved.  As well, you can even swap
forward or backward to some other workable NIC card or audio in the new box as
needed.  Just so long as it will at least boot up to OS/2 that you can then
change to what is needed.

           ZOOM!  Off you go into new box OS/2 land and scrap all
               mess of install whatever that doesn't work or
               whatever due to this or that further mess.

I've cloned ThinkPads from desktop boxes. desktop boxes from ThinkPads,servers
from workstations, workstations from servers, a whole mess of stuff this way. 
Just as long as there is a SUPPORTABLE set of hardware items such as NIC units,
Audio chipsets or PCI cards and so on. And just so long as the SNAP graphics
tools will support the video on the cloned box or laptop; fly away into the sky
with it all.

Yes .. things are going to go forward beyond SNAP with what eCs is doing.  But
the whole deal of messing with the install this and failures and so on seems to
be cut way short since DFSEE got through version 9.15 when Jan got all this
working.

Now what I want to know is can I use one of these USB plug in devices to take
the place of the USB box and hard drive in it?

--> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;)

Mike @ 1:117/3001



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