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Skriven 2011-08-10 15:51:07 av Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Ärende: Re: doscall1
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Thunderbird/5.0
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips

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comp.os.os2.setup.misc:581 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:1321
From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM>

> maybe he can successfully shed some more light on this subject.

Here are some more basics, just so that we're all on the same page:

* In theory one can have multiple I/O APICs in a system.  In practice, 
on the sorts of systems we're talking about here, there's only going to 
be one.  It lives in the PCI-to-ISA bridge part of what is variously 
called an "I/O Controller Hub" (ICH) or a "PCI ISA IDE Xcelerator" 
(PIIX) by Intel or a "South Bridge" by VIA.

* The difference between MPS (Intel's "Multi-Processor Specification") 
version 1.1 tables and version 1.4 tables is that the version 1.4 tables 
contain various extensions, dealing with things like multiple I/O APICs. 
  Again, this will be largely irrelevant here.

* For most, perhaps all (certainly all that I have datasheets for), 
chipsets, there is a control bit of some form in configuration space 
that enables or disables the I/O APIC.  If there are no local APICs 
enabled on the other end of the APIC bus, however, it doesn't really 
matter what state the I/O APICs are in.  Nothing will be listening to 
their messages.  Indeed, in a more extreme case, the APICCLK signal may 
be simply tied to ground, and no I/O APIC messages will happen on the 
APIC bus at all, because its clock is frozen.

* There are two ways to turn off a local APIC: the hard way and the easy 
way.  Both involve setting flags in CPU registers.  If a local APIC is 
turned off the hard way, it cannot be turned back on again without 
potentially losing interrupts and confusing the entire APIC bus 
arbitration scheme.  A local APIC turned off the easy way can be re-enabled.

* There are two ways for firmware to report I/O APIC configuration 
information to an operating system: the MPS table, and ACPI tables. 
They aren't quite the same.  The configuration information reported 
states among other things which ISA devices and which PCI IRQ lines are 
connected to which I/O APIC inputs.  There's no requirement, after all, 
that every motherboard manufacturer connect the ISA IRQ #7 signal to I/O 
APIC INTIN pin #7.

* In addition to deciding how to program the enable control bits for the 
I/O APIC and all of the local APICs, firmware also gets to decide what 
it reports in the MPS and ACPI tables.  It might decide to lie, for 
example, and deny the existence of I/O APICs or local APICs in the 
machine.  The idea of this would be to force an operating system, whose 
primary source of this hardware information is supposed to be the MPS 
and ACPI tables, to still "see" an ACPI system, but one that doesn't 
have APICs; thereby forcing it to fall back to whatever dual-8259 mode 
of operation it has, whilst still retaining other unrelated 
ACPI-provided information such as (say) system reset and environment 
control capabilities.

* An OS/2 Platform-Specific Driver (PSD) is not a Windows NT Hardware 
Abstraction Layer (HAL).  A HAL abstracts away quite a lot of the 
details of interrupt processing and low-level inter-processor 
synchronization and communication.  A PSD does not.  There are two 
particulars of note.  First: The OS/2 kernel has fallback code that 
knows how to talk to dual 8259s, should a PSD not implement certain 
optional capabilities, and operate what is essentially an *asymmetric* 
multiprocessor system.  Second: An OS/2 PSD has no responsibility for 
implementing spinlocks.  So a system where the PSD omits the optional 
features does not devolve to being identical to a uniprocessor OS/2 system.

* The idea that I/O APICs increase the number of available interrupts is 
a bit of a swizz.  The number of PIRQ signal lines on the PCI bus 
doesn't magically change.  Some internal devices, built in to the 
southbridge, gain the ability to use extra interrupt signals that don't 
exist on the real PCI bus (On some VIA southbridges, for example, the 
internal PCI-to-ATA bridge gets to use PCI INT #E.).  But, really, 
stating that the point of an I/O APIC is to "gain more interrupts" is 
mis-selling it.  I/O APICs provide better ways to manage and control the 
*same* set of PCI and ISA interrupt signals, not more of them.

--- Internet Rex 2.31
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