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Skriven 2012-10-31 12:38:11 av RD Sandman
Ärende: Re: Billy Graham
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Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote in 
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> RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in 
> news:XnsA0FC714769D56hopewell@216.196.121.131:
> 
>> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote in 
>> news:XnsA0FBD544757A1nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131:
>> 
>>> RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in 
>>> news:XnsA0FBA676236CChopewell@216.196.121.131:
>>> 
>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote in 
>>>> news:XnsA0FBB74998E39nomailverizonnet@216.196.121.131:
>>>> 
>>>>> RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:XnsA0FB92CAA79A0hopewell@216.196.121.131: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:e958ac5d-5d9b-4a20-9ad2-990674881cd5
>>> @o5g2000pbd.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The fact remains, whatever your protestations, that Bush was 
> handed 
>>> a
>>>>>>> *surplus*, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, he wasn't. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       So Bush lied.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are 
>>>>> too high and government is charging more than it needs."
>>>>> Bush Address to Congress, Feb 2001
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       And the US Treasury lied:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> U.S. budget surplus shrinks  
>>>>> October 29, 2001 
>>>>>  
>>>>> NEW YORK (CNNmoney) - The U.S. government's budget surplus 
>>>>> shrank in 2001, the Treasury Department reported Monday, 
>>>>> dragged down by a sluggish economy, falling tax revenue and 
>>>>> the impact of last month's terror attacks. The Treasury 
>>>>> Department reported a budget surplus for the fiscal year, 
>>>>> which ended on Sept. 30, of $127 billion, compared with $237 
>>>>> billion a year ago.
>>>>> money.cnn.com/2001/10/29/economy/budget/ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       And Fox News lied. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The last surplus was in 2001, President Bush's first year in 
>> office."
>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296720,00.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      And the Congressional Budget Office lied.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Since peaking at $290 billion in 1992, deficits have declined each 
>>>>> year, dropping to a level of $22 billion in 1997. For 1998, the 
>>>>> Nation recorded its first budget surplus ($69.2 billion) since 
1969. 
>>>>> As a percent of GDP, the budget bottom line went from a deficit of 
>>>>> 4.7% in 1992 to a surplus of 0.8% in 1998."
>>>>> http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy00/pdf/hist.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      And Newt Gingrich lied:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "We should take the $1 trillion in SURPLUS and spend it on a tax 
>>>>> cut," Gingrich told reporters after a House GOP leadership meeting. 
>>>>> But Gingrich also said that the $1 trillion tax cut plan he favors 
>>>>> might net only $750 billion in tax relief for technical reasons. 
>>>>> Gingrich said he favors "taking $1 trillion in surplus and spending 
>>>>> it on tax cuts which, for reflow reasons, probably gets about to 
>>>>> be $750 billion" in total tax relief."
>>>>> http://www.ctj.org/itep/ging98an.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      And John McCain lied:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I believe we must save Social Security, we must pay down the 
>>>>> debt, we have to make an investment in Medicare. For us to put 
>>>>> all of the surplus into tax cuts, I think is not a conservative 
>>>>> effort." John McCain, January 11, 2000
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/289qw6r
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Wow.
>>>> 
>>>> Those are "projections".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "For 1998, the Nation recorded its first budget 
>>> surplus ($69.2 billion) since 1969."
>>> 
>>>    The CBO didn't say "projection", they said
>>> RECORDED SURPLUS.
>> 
>> In 1998, that was true but then we weren't discussing 1998.  We were 
>> discussing the "surpluses" Clinton passed on to Bush.  From when Bush 
>> took office, those were projections from the Clinton budgets. 
> 
> 
>     So Bush lied when he said he inherited
> a "growing surplus"? Not a projection, but 
> a surplus. 
> 
> 
>   "The last surplus was in 2001, President Bush's 
> first year in office."
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296720,00.html

You are talking about the same people who think that reducing the size of 
more money to something is a cut.  It is like having a daughter who gets 
a $20/week allowance.  You were planning to raise her allowance to 
$30/week but you have to cut back on expenses.  Therefore, you only give 
her a $5/increase so she only goes up to $25/week.  Then you tell 
everybody you had to cut her allowance by $5/week.

Besides, the 2001 budget was passed by Clinton in 2000.  Or didn't you 
know that?  However, there were no surpluses after that because things 
changed that weren't planned on in the budget that Bush passed.  For 
example, the 2002 budget was passed to be effective on 10/01/2001.  
Although 9/11 had just occurred, we didn't have any war expenses then.

-- 

Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be President, 

And anyone who doesn't grow up can be Vice President.


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)

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