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Skriven 2006-04-06 11:09:24 av RobertB. (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 10535 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Berk! Windows on Mac
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From: "RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu>

By the way, a recent FAQ I read about this indicates that, at this time, you
can only install XP with Service Pack 2 on the CD (or DVD). IOW, you cannot
install XP and upgrade to Service Pack 2. Does MSoft ship XP with Service Pack
2 direct from the factory? robert


In article <44343bbc@w3.>, "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote:

> Well, Apple may have guaranteed at least one more full service pack release
> for XP and a "manufacturing refresh" for new production runs.
>
> No doubt PC Magazine will fail to write about Windows on Mac until AFTER it
> becomes dangerously incompatible.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44340ca0@w3....
> > I'm sure, just as with OS2, the next patch release of Windows will somehow
> > *accidentally* not work with Boot Camp
> >
> >
> > "RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:rb28-565234.14240505042006@w3.nls.net...
> > > From this morning. By the way, Apple's stock just shot up.
> > >
> > >
> > >  http://www.news.com/
> > > Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
> > >
> > > By Candace Lombardi
> > >
> http://news.com.com/Apple+Windows+on+a+Mac+is+here/2100-1012_3-6057856.ht
> > > ml
> > >
> > > Story last modified Wed Apr 05 10:38:17 PDT 2006
> > >
> > >
> > > Apple Computer said on Wednesday that it has released a public beta
> > > version of Boot Camp, software that enables Microsoft Windows XP to run
> > > natively on Intel-based Macs.
> > > The software, which will be included in Mac OS X 10.5, called Leopard,
> > > is available for download on Apple's Web site. Apple will also preview
> > > Boot Camp in August at its Worldwide Developers Conference, the company
> > > said.
> > > "Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many
> > > customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's
> > > superior hardware, now that we use Intel processors," Philip Schiller,
> > > Apple's senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in a
> > > statement. "We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to
> > > Windows users considering making the switch."
> > > Apple didn't specifically mention plans to support running Vista, the
> > > long-delayed update to the Windows operating system now expected early
> > > next year.
> > > Microsoft representatives were not immediately available for comment.
> > > Also unclear is what the Mac maker's move will mean for sales of
> > > Windows-based PCs. Market researcher IDC has already scaled back PC
> > > sales forecasts for the year, due in part to the Vista delay. And some
> > > analysts expect Apple sales to rise as a result of the holdup of the new
> > > operating system's release.
> > > With Boot Camp, Intel-based Mac users can choose between running Mac OS
> > > or Windows XP each time they boot their system.
> > > The move in this direction began last June, when Apple CEO Steve Jobs
> > > announced that Apple was shifting to Intel-based computers. Apple also
> > > said it had been developing Mac OS X with the intention that it would be
> > > able to run on Intel chips and IBM's PowerPC chips, which were
> > > previously the sole processors used in Macs.
> > > In January, Apple released the first Intel-based Macs with Intel's Duo
> > > dual-core chips. The new computers run two to three times faster than
> > > similar Macs with PowerPC chips, Apple said. Since then, speculation had
> > > grown about whether the company would enable Microsoft's ubiquitous
> > > operating system to run natively on its computers.
> > > In other news:
> > >   ?  Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
> > >   ?  Microsoft ramps up virtualization push
> > >   ?  An absolutely unstunning T-shirt
> > >   ?  News.com Extra: Beam can single out drunk drivers
> > >   ?  Video: Are you a marketing genius?
> > > While Apple has prohibited people from running Mac OS X on anything
> > > other than its own computers, it has never tried to prevent Mac owners
> > > from trying to run Windows on their machines. Still, the company has not
> > > been a large supporter of the idea. That's something Apple Senior
> > > Software Architect Cameron Esfahani made clear at the Intel Developer
> > > Forum in March.
> > > Customers, however, have been clamoring to see it happen. There have
> > > even been XP-on-Mac contests in recent weeks.
> > > "This solves a lot of potential holdups to Macintosh adoption. While a
> > > group of programmers already has demonstrated that this is entirely
> > > possible to do, that method for deployment is more of a clever hack that
> > > no sane end user would attempt," JupiterResearch analyst Michael
> > > Gartenberg wrote in a blog posting Wednesday.
> > > "Overall, (this is) a nice tactical move by Apple that will make their
> > > platforms and systems much more attractive," Gartenberg wrote.
> > > Mac fans might remember that this isn't the first time that Apple has
> > > supported Windows via a dual-boot option. In the mid 1990s, the company
> > > introduced--and soon discontinued--Macintosh models that supported a
> > > plug-in card, which included a separate x86 processor for running both
> > > DOS and Windows.
> > > Still, Apple won't provide any technical support for the Boot Camp beta,
> > > and the company was quick to point out the potential pitfalls of running
> > > Windows. "Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That
> > > means it'll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows
> > > world," the company warned on its Web site. "So be sure to keep it
> > > updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes."
> > > The new software, coupled with the tremendous popularity that the iPod
> > > has brought to Apple, could bring more people over to the Apple side,
> > > some analysts said.
> > > Paul Jackson, an analyst at Forrester Research, predicts that home users
> > > previously daunted by a fear of incompatibly with their work PC and a
> > > strong desire to hold on to Windows-based programs may now make the jump
> > > to Macs.
> > > Apple's move is great for Microsoft, Jackson said, since it will mean
> > > extra sales of XP, but it's bad news for PC makers that previously
> > > didn't have to worry about competing for market share with Apple.
> > > "Apple machines are excellently manufactured, and the performance is far
> > > superior," Jackson told CNET News.com. "But companies like Dell and HP
> > > never really had to worry about competing with Apple in the hardware
> > > market. Now you can go in, look at those gorgeous Mac Minis and MacBook
> > > (Pros) and view them as a normal PC. You can run XP and never touch OS
> > > X, if you don't want to."
> > > And, according to Jackson, Macs seem to do XP well.
> > > "From what we know of the hackers' success last week at the XP-on-Mac
> > > contest, once you get XP to run on the Intel Mac, the performance is
> > > actually quite good. We will have to actually wait and see the results
> > > of more official benchmark testing, but so far, that's what it looks
> > > like."
> > > Jackson also noted that Apple's move is an indication of what industry
> > > insiders have argued all along.
> > > "By doing this, Apple has made a tacit acknowledgement of what many have
> > > already said, which basically is: If you're serious about home computing
> > > or small-enterprise computing, you need Windows. There's no way around
> > > it," Jackson said.
> > > And, according to Wall Street, this is good news for Apple stock.
> > > Company shares jumped several percentage points in early-morning
> > > trading, as analysts had mostly positive things to say about the big
> > > announcement.
> > > In other news:
> > >   ?  Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
> > >   ?  Microsoft ramps up virtualization push
> > >   ?  An absolutely unstunning T-shirt
> > >   ?  News.com Extra: Beam can single out drunk drivers
> > >   ?  Video: Are you a marketing genius?
> > > "In short, we believe this news, more than any news in recent memory,
> > > provides a critical boost to Apple's ability to gain share in the PC
> > > market," a JPMorgan Chase analyst report said.
> > > Deutche Bank issued a "buy" for Apple stock on a prediction of share
> > > gains.
> > >
> > > Goldman Sachs, however, was not as impressed.
> > > "Given the newness of Intel-based Macs, we would not expect any
> > > meaningful impact on Mac sales or earnings in the near or intermediate
> > > term," Goldman Sachs in its analyst report of Apple's move. "However,
> > > this is another step in Apple's efforts to expand its total addressable
> > > market to include a more mainstream audience."
> > > Goldman Sachs also noted that the situation could be a "slight negative
> > > for Microsoft" because it does not think that increased Windows sales
> > > would have much of an impact on Microsoft's overall percent of the
> > > market--but that a migration to Apple computers could.
> > >
> > >
> > > Copyright C1995-2006 CNET Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
> >
> >
>
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