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Skriven 2004-10-24 09:40:20 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1068 av Robert Comer (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Article on WIPO & the public good
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From: Ellen K. <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com>

On fair use rights I'm with you 1000%.   If I buy a CD there's no reason
I shouldn't be able to make a copy to play at work as opposed to having to buy
two copies.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:13:11 -0400, "Robert Comer"
<bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <417b9a19$1@w3.nls.net>:

>Ellen,
>
>Forgot to add that fair use rights should not be being curtailed like they
>are now...
>
>- Bob Comer
>
>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:417b993d@w3.nls.net...
>>> True.   But at least there's the opportunity that the general public
>>> buys your product.
>>
>> It would be pretty much the same in a patronage system -- that's what you
>> and I do right at the moment. We create for an employer.  The only ones
>> making a lot of money out of the current system are corporations...
>>
>> I'm not advocating scrapping the whole patent/copyright system, just
>> adjust the time periods involved and maybe get rid of blindingly obvious
>> idea patents. (like how clicking a back button in a browser to go to the
>> previous page.  Nothing that most people in the effected industry would
>> come up with the same thing giving the same problem to solve.)
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> news:3hnmn0phscnvofag4pd43c0tnvkdv8s1ip@4ax.com...
>>> True.   But at least there's the opportunity that the general public
>>> buys your product.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:11:21 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message <417b2928@w3.nls.net>:
>>>
>>>>> But aside from that, it means that only those writers / artists /
>>>>> composers etc whose work finds favor with the wealthy, can make a
>>>>> living
>>>>> from what they produce.
>>>>
>>>>Not everyone produces for money or can make money producing, even with
>>>>the
>>>>way things are now..
>>>>
>>>>- Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:q7amn0p9gf7ubk6fao7692l290vcavtl0j@4ax.com...
>>>>> As many as they WANT to support.   How many are they supporting today?
>>>>>
>>>>> But aside from that, it means that only those writers / artists /
>>>>> composers etc whose work finds favor with the wealthy, can make a
>>>>> living
>>>>> from what they produce.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:19:59 -0700, jeff <jeff@shultzinfosystems.com>
>>>>> wrote in message <417825e5$1@w3.nls.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ellen K wrote:
>>>>>>> So you want to go back to the time of patronage?  That implies
>>>>>>> royalty.  Your politics sure makes strange bedfellows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not necessarily - it implies people with money. How many artists could
>>>>>>a Theresa Heinz Kerry or a Bill & Melissa Gates support?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Adam Flinton <adam_NO_@_SPAM_softfab.com> Gary Wiltshire
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fuck yes, I own what I create.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually no you don't. The public own it & you get a temporary
>>>>>>>> period of monopoly over it in order for you to derive some monetary
>>>>>>>> compensation from the market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The moment what I create is not protected  I will not create.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Astonishing that there was any literature or music or science or
>>>>>>>> philosophy etc.etc. created before the WIPO existed isn't it.
>>>>>>>> Shakespeare, Cicero, Ovid, Pope, Faraday et al must have been
>>>>>>>> driven by a different motive than money. Adam
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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