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Text 11584, 119 rader
Skriven 2006-06-12 10:49:12 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 11582 av Frank Haber (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: PCI hardware ID
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   I doubt anyone is deliberately having the hardware return incorrect =
IDs.  If I had to guess they hardware was designed to be compatible and = then
found not to be.  Why whatever changes the OEMs have to do to their = drivers
can't be supported in the nvidia drivers I do not know.  I = expect any such
changes to be small.  That though is a business decision = between nvida and
its oems.

   The data isn't garbage.  It is how PCI devices are identified.

Rich

  "Frank Haber" <frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com> wrote in message =
news:448da34d$1@w3.nls.net...
  >   That would deny them to the bulk of the users which have good =
hardware.

  I think I'm going to challenge that.

  o Given that, what, 60% of the machines out there are Dell, HP and a =
couple of=20
  others (guessing)....

  o and that Dell and HP, at least, have a history of buying =
cost-reduced OEM=20
  hardware, or subtly different variants "just because" (? to be =
different?  ?to=20
  retain update control?), and affixing ?deliberately sketchy/generic =
PCI=20
  IDs....

  o then doesn't it make sense for MS to give up this irritating and =
Quixotic=20
  scheme, which bases machine-munging updates on garbage data?


  ....the above advice is offered sans strings under the Who Cares =
licensing=20
  program, which I have just invented, named and forgotten practically =
in one=20
  breath.  Use or discard at will, but breathe free, if you still can.=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I doubt anyone is =
deliberately having=20
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was=20
designed to be compatible and then found not to be.&nbsp; Why whatever =
changes=20
the OEMs have to do to their drivers can't be supported in the nvidia = drivers
I=20
do not know.&nbsp; I expect any such changes to be small.&nbsp; That = though
is a=20
business decision between nvida and its oems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The data isn't =
garbage.&nbsp; It is=20
how PCI&nbsp;devices are identified.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:448da34d$1@w3.nls.net">news:448da34d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  That would deny them to the bulk of the users which have good=20
  hardware.<BR><BR>I think I'm going to challenge that.<BR><BR>o Given =
that,=20
  what, 60% of the machines out there are Dell, HP and a couple of =
<BR>others=20
  (guessing)....<BR><BR>o and that Dell and HP, at least, have a history =
of=20
  buying cost-reduced OEM <BR>hardware, or subtly different variants =
"just=20
  because" (? to be different?&nbsp; ?to <BR>retain update control?), =
and=20
  affixing ?deliberately sketchy/generic PCI <BR>IDs....<BR><BR>o then =
doesn't=20
  it make sense for MS to give up this irritating and Quixotic =
<BR>scheme, which=20
  bases machine-munging updates on garbage data?<BR><BR><BR>....the =
above advice=20
  is offered sans strings under the Who Cares licensing <BR>program, =
which I=20
  have just invented, named and forgotten practically in one =
<BR>breath.&nbsp;=20
  Use or discard at will, but breathe free, if you still can.=20
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