Text 12129, 50 rader
Skriven 2006-07-15 12:07:30 av Robert G Lewis (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 12124 av Randall Parker (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: AT&T - we own your records sucker!!!
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From: "Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis@comcast.net>


"Randall Parker"
<obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now@STOPfutureSPAMpundit_with_bold_stuff.comNOW>
wrote in message news:44b91613@w3.nls.net...
> Robert G Lewis wrote:
>> Our founding fathers felt that government intrusion was wrong. We had a
>> little war over those intrusions. I feel the government has no business
>> knowing what China pattern I have, or who I call or what I read etc etc
>> etc. If I commit a crime then they are free to investigate me, until then
>> what I do is none of their business. I am not willing to give up my
>> freedoms, not to Jihadists or any government . They already have the
>> means to get the information, legally.
>
> It is hard to identify who the Jihadists are. Some of them do not appear
> to be trying to violate the law until the day they launch a big attack. By
> what magic means is the government to find them if the government can not
> use automated information analysis systems?
>

Good old fashion intellegence and common sense. We know who at least some of
the groups are. Watch them and we follow the chain. Target them. Nothing magic
about it. They already have the ability to get information legally. Why gather
the data on 200 million when you are looking for a few thousand ?

>>
>>  Think of the false positives, every one needs to be investigated, every
>> one will require resources.  Sounds like one hell of an increase in size
>> ( and cost) of government. I think its better to focus on the terrorists.
>> How will we learn what THEIR tactics are when we are looking over Mark's
>> phone records ( or finding out what China Mark likes)?
>
> Computers automate the search for bad guys. If automated systems do not
> get used then the government will have to hire orders of magnitude more
> people to go out and do surveillance in the field. Do you want that?
>

And they have to increase people to follow up on all of the items from the
automated systems as well. How much effort is currently being used to track all
of the positives coming out of the system ?  How much of that effort interferes
with finding the actual targets ?

Yes I prefer people in the field doing targeted surveillance over Big Brother
watching our every move. Do you want the government gathering data on your
phone calls and banking activities ? At least some of our problems have come
about due to our neglect of human intelligence.

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