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Skriven 2006-07-30 16:22:48 av Geo (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 12273 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Bad developers whine over Windows kernel security
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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What trojans or malware are known to modify the kernel or other kernel = mode
components?

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:44cac451$1@w3.nls.net...
     The sales and marketing guy being quoted is either an idiot or a =
liar.  The protection present in x64 systems protects against trojans = and
other bad code that attempt to modify the kernel or other kernel = mode
components.  Well behaved code that calls system APIs is not = affected in any
way.  What makes this guy an idiot or a liar is that = using the well
documented Windows API provides the means to remain = compatible.  Patching and
modifying random code or data in the kernel or = other components is not
portable or compatible from version to version.  = Even you, mike miller,
should be able to see this as you have whined in = the past when a firewall you
used or liked broke because it did stupid = stuff like this.

     As for making it easy for third parties to provide firewalls, =
Microsoft makes a significant effort to not only allow for this but it =
recently made it much easier with the Windows Filtering Platform =
(http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx).

  Rich


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What trojans or malware are known to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The sales and marketing =
guy being=20
  quoted is either an idiot or a liar.&nbsp; The protection present in =
x64=20
  systems protects against trojans and other bad code that attempt to =
modify the=20
  kernel or other kernel mode components.&nbsp; Well behaved code that =
calls=20
  system APIs is not affected in any way.&nbsp; What makes this guy an =
idiot or=20
  a liar is that using the well documented Windows API provides the =
means to=20
  remain compatible.&nbsp; Patching and modifying random code or data in =
the=20
  kernel or other components is not portable or compatible from version =
to=20
  version.&nbsp; Even you, mike miller,&nbsp;should be able to see this =
as you=20
  have whined in the past when a firewall you used or liked broke =
because it did=20
  stupid stuff like this.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; As for making it easy =
for third=20
  parties to provide firewalls, Microsoft makes a significant effort to =
not only=20
  allow for this but it recently made it much easier with the Windows =
Filtering=20
  Platform (<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx"=
>http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx</A>).</=
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