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Skriven 2006-08-10 13:24:56 av /m (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 12503 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: new toys from Apple
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From: /m <mike@barkto.com>

Let me try to reply once again, this time without the trigger send finger 
:)...


>I'm not really trying to go out of my way to knock Apple. It's just that if
>I'm going to invest time and money on a product I tend to play Devil's
>Advocate as I like to want to know what the potential problems are


I agree.  As I have mentioned, I had a MacBookPro on order, but cancelled it
the next day when I started to hear about the heat problems.

My comments to you were more along the lines of trying to explain the cause of
the heat (excessive heatsink compound in the notebooks), and heat management
(Mac Pro).

The Apple notebooks have run hot.  My new Wintel notebook with a Core Duo runs
hot as well, so much so that I need to use a Lapinator in order to place the
notebook on my lap. (http://www.lapinator.com/)

The heat is not limited to the Apples.  The overzealous application of heatsink
compound, however, is limited to Apple.  And it is the reason why I don't have
an Apple notebook yet.   I'll give Apple a few months
to work out those quirks.

 /m



On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:42:25 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Interesting site Intel Mac temperature database
>
>http://www.intelmactemp.com/list
>
>got a link to it from
>
>http://www.appledefects.com/
>
>
>I'm not really trying to go out of my way to knock Apple. It's just that if
>I'm going to invest time and money on a product I tend to play Devil's
>Advocate as I like to want to know what the potential problems are
>
>
>"/m" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
>news:mm1ld2dmrp1ct3dm02b6reibs4fuq45aba@4ax.com...
>>
>> The recent heat issue with the notebooks was due to an overzealous
>> application of heat sink compound, not inadequate air flow.  Once the
>> heat sink compound was reduced to the proper level, the notebooks ran
>> quite cool.
>>
>> Regarding the Mac Pro, you should also take into account how much air
>> the fan can move, not just the fact that there is only one.  I think one
>> fan with good airflow engineering can do a better overall job than
>> multiple fans.
>>
>>  /m
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:06:17 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ok what about adding 4 high performance drives and an NVIDIA GeForce 7300?
>>>I'm sorry it just seems Apple seems addicted to heat issues on much of
>>>their
>>>product line.
>>>
>>>
>>>"RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>>>news:rb28-1E29B7.19520309082006@w3.nls.net...
>>>>I think the single fan is a result of good fluid dynamic design and the
>>>> ability to move air through the system. Apparently, the Xeon chips run
>>>> much cooler than the old G5s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In article <44d9f414@w3.nls.net>, "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately for some ( me ) that would like a desktop replacement
>>>>> (that's
>>>>> not an all-in-one ) in a smaller form factor the Mac Pros only produce
>>>>> a
>>>>> yawn.  It's a shame those 4.9 million build configurations don't
>>>>> include
>>>>> a
>>>>> different case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus one fan inside the case? I guess Apple just likes 'hot' machines
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rb28-6CEBC5.10221709082006@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> > The following is official description of the new Mac desktop line.
>>>>> > I believe this is the entry-level model. Drool.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Apple on Monday announced the Mac Pro, a new professional desktop
>>>>> > computer that replaces its line of Power Mac machines. The Mac Pro
>>>>> > completes the company?s transition to Intel chips across its line of
>>>>> > desktop and laptop machines. The standard Mac Pro configuration is
>>>>> > priced at $2,499, build to order options will be available as well.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Mac Pro will sport Intel?s Dual-Core 64-bit Xeon 5100 series
>>>>> > processor, also known as ?Woodcrest,? running at speeds of up to 3
>>>>> > GHz with 4 MB of shared L2 cache. Each microprocessor will have
>>>>> > independent 1.33GHz Front Side Buses (FSB), with 21 gigabyte per
>>>>> > second (GB/s) processor bandwidth. The processors are fed by four-
>>>>> > channel, 256-bit 667MHZ fully-buffered memory, up to 16GB?twice as
>>>>> > wide as the memory bus in a G5 and faster.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ?It?s an amazing processor to put in our products, but in every Mac
>>>>> > Pro we?re going to put two of them,? said Phil Schiller, Apple?s
>>>>> > senior vice president of worldwide product marketing.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Mac Pro will support up to four 500GB Serial ATA hard drives for
>>>>> > up to 2 terabytes (TB) of internal storage, as well as dual optical
>>>>> > drive bays to simoultaneously read or write CDs and DVDs. The new
>>>>> > drive bays snap into place. All new Mac Pros come with three full-
>>>>> > length PCI Express expansion slots and one double-wide PCI Express
>>>>> > graphics slot. The machines also include two USB 2.0, one FireWire
>>>>> > 400 and one FireWire 800 ports on the front, as well as additional
>>>>> > FireWire 800, FireWire 400 and three USB 2.0 ports on the back panel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Mac Pro comes standard with the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT video card
>>>>> > with 256MB of video memory, providing built-in support for dual-
>>>>> > displays and Apple?s 30-inch Cinema HD Display. The ATI Radeon X1900
>>>>> > XT and the NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500, both with 512MB of video memory,
>>>>> > are available as build to order options and provide built-in support
>>>>> > for up to two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays. The Quadro FX 4500
>>>>> > also includes a stereo 3D port to connect goggles for stereo- in-a-
>>>>> > window applications and is ideal for the most demanding animation,
>>>>> > special effects and scientific visualization applications. Up to four
>>>>> > PCI Express graphics cards to drive up to eight displays at once for
>>>>> > advanced visualization and large display walls.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The standard Mac Pro configuration is shipping today, featuring two
>>>>> > 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors1GB of 667MHz memory, 250GB
>>>>> > storage, Nvidia GeForce 7300GT graphics with 256MB VRAM and a 16x
>>>>> > SuperDrive optical drive, as well as an Apple Mighty Mouse and
>>>>> > keyboard, priced at $2,499.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The company notes that 4.9 million possible Build to order options
>>>>> > are available, including configurations with two 2.0 GHz or 3.0 GHz
>>>>> > Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors; up to 16GB of 667 MHz DDR2 fully-
>>>>> > buffered ECC memory; up to four 500GB Serial ATA hard drives running
>>>>> > at 7200 rpm; up to two 16x SuperDrives with double-layer support; ATI
>>>>> > Radeon X1900 XT and NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 graphics cards, both with
>>>>> > 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM; AirPort Extreme module, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
>>>>> > module; Apple USB Modem; Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple wireless
>>>>> > Mighty Mouse; Mac OS X Server Tiger; Apple Xsan; and Apple Fibre
>>>>> > Channel PCI Express Card.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

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