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Skriven 2006-08-23 10:32:22 av David B (1:379/45)
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Ärende: Re: Windows Vista Beta 2 Plagued by Bugs
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From: "David B" <me@barkto.com>


"/m" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=1110083YRM69&page=1
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> "I have been testing Microsoft operating systems since Windows 95, and
> this is the buggiest OS I've seen this late in development," says Joe
> Wilcox, an analyst with Jupiter Research. "Look at the older operating
> systems, and by Beta 2 there is a stable foundation on which the
> [independent software vendors] can build. Right now, Vista is like a
> ship on stormy seas."
>
> What began as a murmur a few months back is turning into an audible
> grumble, as beta testers and experts question the stability of the
> latest Windows Vista beta and Microsoft itself hints at yet another
> release delay.
>
> Testers and pundits alike say Vista Beta 2, released publicly in June,
> is plagued by bugs and blue screens. Some testers are saying a Beta 3
> cycle, which is not planned, may be needed and that the software isn't
> ready for final testing before shipment, which Microsoft calls Release
> Candidate 1 (RC1).
>
> Microsoft said two weeks ago that RC1 of Vista would ship before the end
> of September.
>
> The final release of Vista for corporate customers now is targeted for
> November. Microsoft's Kevin Johnson, the co-president of the platform
> and services division, told financial analysts in late July, however,
> that while Vista is on schedule the code would not ship until it was
> ready.
>
> With the current timeline, Microsoft would have a bit more than a month
> to collect and incorporate testers' feedback from RC1 and finalize the
> code before shipment.
>
> "I have been testing Microsoft operating systems since Windows 95, and
> this is the buggiest OS I've seen this late in development," says Joe
> Wilcox, an analyst with Jupiter Research. "Look at the older operating
> systems, and by Beta 2 there is a stable foundation on which the
> [independent software vendors] can build. Right now, Vista is like a
> ship on stormy seas."
>
> One ISV that asked not to be named says a private beta it is working
> with that shipped after Vista Beta 2 is more stable but is still a
> memory hog. "The memory consumption has been reduced from a gig to
> 700MB, which is about three times what XP requires. It is probably going
> to come down, but it is a big beast," the ISV says.
>
> The ISV says its customers have said they will wait at least a year to
> adopt the new operating system.
>
> A survey of 207 companies released by Jupiter Research last week shows
> that nearly 50% of these 100-plus-employee outfits will wait at least 13
> months after release to deploy Vista -- or won't deploy it at all.
>
> Microsoft's traditional advocates also are questioning the viability of
> the software and its release schedule. Robert McLaws, a popular blogger
> and a Microsoft MVP (non-employees who offer expert analysis on
> products), said in his blog entry titled "The entry I didn't want to
> write," "Beta 2 was a disappointment on many levels. It was nowhere near
> as stable as it should have been." McLaws says pushing the launch back
> four to six weeks with a release in February, adding another beta cycle
> and coming clean publicly with the new delay may be the best solution
> for producing "the best version of Windows ever."
>
> He wasn't the only one with stern advice for Microsoft. Former Microsoft
> blogger advocate Robert Scoble used his blog to say, "This sucker is
> just not ready It feels like it needs a good six more months, . . .
> which would mean a mid-year release next year."
>
> After five years between major client operating system releases,
> Microsoft needs a home run, experts say.
>
> "It's ready when it's ready, but it better be good when it's ready or
> there'll be hell to pay," says Tom Henderson, principal researcher for
> ExtremeLabs and a member of the Network World Lab Alliance. He says
> there are a lot of issues with the code floating around among testers.
>
> Others see additional red flags.
>
> "Put the testing aside, I can't find a valid antivirus software that
> works with it," says Michael Cherry, an analyst with research firm
> Directions on Microsoft. "That is a key application and runs at a core
> level. If the antivirus vendors, who work closely with Microsoft, can't
> get Vista working, then the core is not stable."
>
> Cherry says it might be time to reset expectations because an operating
> system no longer should be a groundbreaking piece of technology.
>
> "I am impressed with Apple OS and I like the way over the last couple of
> releases they have made a series of incremental improvements. It has not
> been earth-shattering," he says.
> ===
>
>
> As time goes on, Vista is looking more and mor elike a slow motion train
> wreck.
>
> /m





While not disagreeing in principle... it IS a beta, after all. And a huge one.

I've actually had wonderful results with Vista, other than it is difficult to
find things sometimes.

There are a number of antivirus programs which work. I am using the free AVG,
but Symantec and (I believe) McAfee have working betas, as well as a couple of
other ones out there. Mr Cherry doesn't impress me with that quote.

As well, I recall seeing the same kind of "won't implement" quotes before XP,
which became pervasive as well.

I haven't had a BSOD in Vista at all. Maybe I'm lucky. But I've been on it for
ages, and without an issue.

/d

LOL

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