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Skriven 2006-09-18 08:37:34 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 12967 av Adam (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Rich" <@>
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You should talk with george who asserts that format conversion and =
transfer to a music player is fair use. I'm sure you have made this =
assertion before to and your reversal is interesting.
Rich
"Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message =
news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> Why haven't you made this claim about the format conversion apple =
> software performs to support their commercial activities? Or are =
you=20
> claiming some rediculous difference?
> =20
I don't like any music player which changes my tunes to suit it. I =
took=20
back a purple sony thing which did that.
I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where the tracks were =
owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not aware of =
the=20
bbc giving their permission etc.
It's definitely outside of fair use but you know that which is why=20
you're raising these fatuous points to try & cover your corp sponsored =
hypocrisy.
Adam
> Rich
> =20
>=20
> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the
> <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the> field.near the =
bridge">
> wrote in message news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net...
> Rich wrote:
> > So riping from CD is a copyright violation by your =
definition?
> >=20
>=20
> in order to make money off then yes.
>=20
> & MS is seeking to have this as a selling point & thus make =
money off.
>=20
> Adam
>=20
> > Rich
> >
> > "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the
> <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the>
> > <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the> field.near the
> bridge">
> > wrote in message news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net...
> > I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
> > so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like =
a
> movie or
> > piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is =
verboten.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> You should talk with =
george who=20
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I'm sure you have made this assertion before to and your reversal is=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net">news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Rich=20
wrote:<BR>> Why haven't you made this claim about =
the=20
format conversion apple <BR>> software performs to support their =
commercial=20
activities? Or are you <BR>> claiming some rediculous=20
difference?<BR>> <BR><BR>I don't like any music player which =
changes=20
my tunes to suit it. I took <BR>back a purple sony thing which did=20
that.<BR><BR>I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where =
the tracks=20
were <BR>owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not =
aware of=20
the <BR>bbc giving their permission etc.<BR><BR>It's definitely =
outside of=20
fair use but you know that which is why <BR>you're raising these =
fatuous=20
points to try & cover your corp sponsored=20
<BR>hypocrisy.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR>> Rich<BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> "Adam" <"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>>=20
field.near the bridge"><BR>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net">news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
Rich wrote:<BR>> =
> So=20
riping from CD is a copyright violation by your=20
definition?<BR>> > <BR>>=20
<BR>> in order to make money off then =
yes.<BR>>=20
<BR>> & MS is seeking to have this as a =
selling=20
point & thus make money off.<BR>> =
<BR>> =20
Adam<BR>> <BR>> >=20
Rich<BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> "Adam"=20
<"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>><BR>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>>=20
field.near the<BR>> =20
bridge"><BR>> =
> =20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net">news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
> I wonder if it changes the file in any =
way.=20
If<BR>> > =20
so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like=20
a<BR>> movie=20
or<BR>> > =
piece of=20
music "rearranging without permission" etc is=20
verboten.<BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> =20
Adam<BR>> =20
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