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Skriven 2006-09-18 21:43:14 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 12974 av Adam (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Rich" <@>
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My views haven't changed. I think it is OK to rip your own CDs for =
your own use. Always have. You are changing your tune and looking like = a
fool with your new very silly assertions.
Rich
"Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the bridge"> =
wrote in message news:450ee6a3$1@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> You should talk with george who asserts that format conversion =
and
> transfer to a music player is fair use. I'm sure you have made this
> assertion before to and your reversal is interesting.
> =20
Nope It's MS who're making out that altering other people's files w/o
permission in order to make money is now OK. I'm not surprised that =
your
views follow the views du jour of your corporate masters though.
Adam
> Rich
>=20
> "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
> <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
> news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net...
> Rich wrote:
> > Why haven't you made this claim about the format conversion =
apple
> > software performs to support their commercial activities? Or =
are you
> > claiming some rediculous difference?
> >=20
>=20
> I don't like any music player which changes my tunes to suit it. =
I took
> back a purple sony thing which did that.
>=20
> I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where the =
tracks were
> owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not aware =
of the
> bbc giving their permission etc.
>=20
> It's definitely outside of fair use but you know that which is =
why
> you're raising these fatuous points to try & cover your corp =
sponsored
> hypocrisy.
>=20
> Adam
>=20
>=20
> > Rich
> >=20
> >
> > "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the
> <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the>
> > <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the> field.near the =
bridge">
> > wrote in message news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net...
> > Rich wrote:
> > > So riping from CD is a copyright violation by your
> definition?
> > >
> >
> > in order to make money off then yes.
> >
> > & MS is seeking to have this as a selling point & thus =
make
> money off.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the
> <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the>
> > <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the>
> > > <mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the> =
field.near the
> > bridge">
> > > wrote in message news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net...
> > > I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
> > > so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file =
then like a
> > movie or
> > > piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc =
is
> verboten.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> My views haven't =
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think it is OK to rip your own CDs for your own use. Always =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A>=20
field.near the bridge"> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450ee6a3$1@w3.nls.net">news:450ee6a3$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Rich=20
wrote:<BR>> You should talk with george who =
asserts that=20
format conversion and<BR>> transfer to a music player is fair =
use. =20
I'm sure you have made this<BR>> assertion before to and your =
reversal is=20
interesting.<BR>> <BR><BR>Nope It's MS who're making out that =
altering other people's files w/o<BR>permission in order to make money =
is now=20
OK. I'm not surprised that your<BR>views follow the views du jour of =
your=20
corporate masters though.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>> Rich<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net">news:450e3931$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
> =20
Rich wrote:<BR>> > Why =
haven't=20
you made this claim about the format conversion=20
apple<BR>> > software performs to =
support their=20
commercial activities? Or are =
you<BR>> >=20
claiming some rediculous difference?<BR>> =
>=20
<BR>> <BR>> I don't like any music =
player which=20
changes my tunes to suit it. I took<BR>> =
back a=20
purple sony thing which did that.<BR>> =
<BR>> I=20
did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where the tracks=20
were<BR>> owned by another (e.g. MP3'es =
d/led from=20
the bbc) I am not aware of the<BR>> bbc =
giving=20
their permission etc.<BR>> <BR>> It's =
definitely=20
outside of fair use but you know that which is=20
why<BR>> you're raising these fatuous =
points to try=20
& cover your corp sponsored<BR>> =20
hypocrisy.<BR>> <BR>> Adam<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> > =
Rich<BR>> =20
> <BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> "Adam" <"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>><BR>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>>=20
field.near the bridge"><BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net">news:450c77a7@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
> Rich =
wrote:<BR>> =20
> > So riping =
from CD is=20
a copyright violation by your<BR>> =20
definition?<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> in order to make money off then=20
yes.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> & MS is seeking to have this as a =
selling=20
point & thus make<BR>> money=20
off.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> Adam<BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> >=20
Rich<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> =
> =20
> "Adam" <"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>><BR>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>><BR>> =20
> > <<A =
=
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>mailto:"4thwormcastfrom=
themolehill\"@the</A>>=20
field.near the<BR>> =
> =20
bridge"><BR>> =
> =20
> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net">news:450b40d5@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
> > I =
wonder if it=20
changes the file in any way. If<BR>> =20
> > =20
so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like=20
a<BR>> > movie=20
or<BR>> > =20
> piece of music "rearranging without =
permission"=20
etc is<BR>> =20
verboten.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> =
> =20
> Adam<BR>> =20
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