Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1121
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3205
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13258
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4288
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   32677
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2053
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33888
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24094
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4393
FN_SYSOP   41678
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13598
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16069
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22090
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   924
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
Möte OSDEBATE, 18996 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 12992, 224 rader
Skriven 2006-09-20 00:34:38 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 12991 av Adam (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
=============================
From: "Rich" <@>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_028A_01C6DC4C.8EF20A10
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

   I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use.  I =
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats = including
transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own = use.  I'm pretty
sure you have asserted this position as well in the = past.  Only now do you
act like an idiot with some silly position that = it is illegal for apple to
support format shifting in itunes if they try = to make money on ipods and
itunes.  Why haven't you been more vocal = about your silly position for the
past few years?

Rich

  "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message =
news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    What an idiot.  You think I believe ripping is OK only because my =

  > employer thinks it is OK?  What a hoot!=20

  Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.

  > And your sudden assertion that=20
  > ripping is not OK is because of what?
  > =20

  I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home=20
  backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc =
is=20
  fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one who =

  holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer =
money.

  Adam

  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
  >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
  >     news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >      >    Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You appear to =
take
  >     silly
  >      > positions at the drop of a hat.
  >      >=20
  >      > Rich
  >      >=20
  >      >
  >      >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
  >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
  >      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
  >      >     news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
  >      >     Rich wrote:
  >      >      >    My views haven't changed.  I think it is OK to rip =
your own
  >      >     CDs for
  >      >      > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing your =
tune and
  >      >     looking like
  >      >      > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
  >      >      >
  >      >
  >      >
  >      >
  >      >     So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by =
his
  >     betters?
  >      >
  >      >     Adam
  >     Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer takes, =
which
  >     is in
  >     itself dictated by the search from profits.
  >=20
  >     Adam
------=_NextPart_000_028A_01C6DC4C.8EF20A10
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dwindows-1252">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I have always thought it =
OK rip your=20
own CDs for your own use.&nbsp; I have also thought it OK to further =
format=20
shift into other formats including transfering to your ipod or other = music=20
player for your own use.&nbsp; I'm pretty sure you have asserted this =
position=20
as well in the past.&nbsp; Only now do you act like an idiot with some =
silly=20
position that it is illegal for apple to support format shifting in = itunes
if=20
they try to make money on ipods and itunes.&nbsp; Why haven't you been =
more=20
vocal about your silly position for the past few years?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Adam" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net">news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What an idiot.&nbsp; You think I =
believe=20
  ripping is OK only because my <BR>&gt; employer thinks it is OK?&nbsp; =
What a=20
  hoot! <BR><BR>Nope I think your views change as those of your employer =

  change.<BR><BR>&gt; And your sudden assertion that <BR>&gt; ripping is =
not OK=20
  is because of what?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR><BR>I never said it was right to =
rip in=20
  order to make money. Home <BR>backup/format shifting by the person who =
has=20
  purchased the media etc is <BR>fine but to make money makes you into a =

  publisher. You are the one who <BR>holds it's fine for people to rip =
so long=20
  as it makes your employer money.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>&gt; =
Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net">news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Apparently you.&nbsp; My views haven't changed.&nbsp; You appear to=20
  take<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  silly<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; positions at the drop =
of a=20
  hat.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam"=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net">news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My views =
haven't=20
  changed.&nbsp; I think it is OK to rip your=20
  own<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
CDs=20
  for<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt; your own use.&nbsp; Always have.&nbsp; You are changing your tune =

  and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
looking=20
  like<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt; a fool with your new very silly=20
  assertions.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So=20
  Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by=20
  his<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  betters?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Adam<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope, You simply take whatever =
position=20
  your employer takes, which<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is=20
  in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; itself dictated by the search from=20
  profits.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_028A_01C6DC4C.8EF20A10--

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
 * Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)