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Skriven 2006-09-21 14:49:28 av Glenn Meadows (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net>

I took his "rearranging" to mean changing the file with time limited DRM code,
not time shifting.

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Glenn M.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4512e62c$1@w3.nls.net...
   No.  This is about the following statements from adam

  I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
  so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie or
  piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is verboten.

The rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format shifting.

Rich

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net...
  what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? That's
what this is about yes?

  Geo.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net...
       I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use.  I
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats including
transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own use.  I'm pretty
sure you have asserted this position as well in the past.  Only now do you act
like an idiot with some silly position that it is illegal for apple to support
format shifting in itunes if they try to make money on ipods and itunes.  Why
haven't you been more vocal about your silly position for the past few years?

    Rich

      "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message
news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
      Rich wrote:
      >    What an idiot.  You think I believe ripping is OK only because my
      > employer thinks it is OK?  What a hoot!

      Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.

      > And your sudden assertion that
      > ripping is not OK is because of what?
      >

      I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home
      backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc
is
      fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one who
      holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer
money.

      Adam

      > Rich
      >
      >
      >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
      >     news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
      >     Rich wrote:
      >      >    Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You appear to
take
      >     silly
      >      > positions at the drop of a hat.
      >      >
      >      > Rich
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
      >      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
      >      >     news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
      >      >     Rich wrote:
      >      >      >    My views haven't changed.  I think it is OK to rip
your own
      >      >     CDs for
      >      >      > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing your
tune and
      >      >     looking like
      >      >      > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
      >      >      >
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >
      >      >     So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by
his
      >     betters?
      >      >
      >      >     Adam
      >     Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer takes,
which
      >     is in
      >     itself dictated by the search from profits.
      >
      >     Adam

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