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Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Rich" <@>
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What possible meaning of the word "rearranging" could mean this?
Rich
"Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4512ed82$1@w3.nls.net...
I took his "rearranging" to mean changing the file with time limited =
DRM=20
code, not time shifting.
--=20
Glenn M.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4512e62c$1@w3.nls.net...
No. This is about the following statements from adam
I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie or
piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is verboten.
The rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format =
shifting.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
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what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? =
That's=20
what this is about yes?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net...
I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use. =
I=20
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats =
including=20
transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own use. I'm =
pretty=20
sure you have asserted this position as well in the past. Only now do =
you=20
act like an idiot with some silly position that it is illegal for =
apple to=20
support format shifting in itunes if they try to make money on ipods =
and=20
itunes. Why haven't you been more vocal about your silly position for =
the=20
past few years?
Rich
"Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message=20
news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> What an idiot. You think I believe ripping is OK only =
because my
> employer thinks it is OK? What a hoot!
Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.
> And your sudden assertion that
> ripping is not OK is because of what?
>
I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home
backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media =
etc=20
is
fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the =
one who
holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your =
employer=20
money.
Adam
> Rich
>
>
> "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
> <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
> news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
> Rich wrote:
> > Apparently you. My views haven't changed. You =
appear to=20
take
> silly
> > positions at the drop of a hat.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
> <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
> > <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in =
message
> > news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
> > Rich wrote:
> > > My views haven't changed. I think it is OK =
to rip=20
your own
> > CDs for
> > > your own use. Always have. You are changing =
your=20
tune and
> > looking like
> > > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to =
him by=20
his
> betters?
> >
> > Adam
> Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer =
takes,=20
which
> is in
> itself dictated by the search from profits.
>
> Adam=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> What possible meaning of =
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<DIV>"Glenn Meadows" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:gmeadow@comcast.net">gmeadow@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
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took his "rearranging" to mean changing the file with time limited DRM =
<BR>code, not time shifting.<BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>Glenn M.<BR>"Rich" =
<@>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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No. This is about the following statements from =
adam<BR><BR> I=20
wonder if it changes the file in any way. If<BR> =20
so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie =
or<BR> =20
piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is =
verboten.<BR><BR>The=20
rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format=20
shifting.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Geo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net">news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
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what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? That's =
<BR>what this is about yes?<BR><BR> Geo.<BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
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p; =20
I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use. I =
<BR>have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats =
including <BR>transfering to your ipod or other music player for your =
own=20
use. I'm pretty <BR>sure you have asserted this position as well =
in the=20
past. Only now do you <BR>act like an idiot with some silly =
position=20
that it is illegal for apple to <BR>support format shifting in itunes =
if they=20
try to make money on ipods and <BR>itunes. Why haven't you been =
more=20
vocal about your silly position for the <BR>past few=20
years?<BR><BR> =
Rich<BR><BR> =20
"Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <BR><A=20
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p; =20
Rich wrote:<BR> > =
What an=20
idiot. You think I believe ripping is OK only because=20
my<BR> > employer thinks it is =
OK? What=20
a hoot!<BR><BR> Nope I think your views =
change=20
as those of your employer =
change.<BR><BR> >=20
And your sudden assertion that<BR> > =
ripping=20
is not OK is because of what?<BR> =20
><BR><BR> I never said it was right =
to rip in=20
order to make money. Home<BR> =
backup/format=20
shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc=20
<BR>is<BR> fine but to make money makes =
you into=20
a publisher. You are the one who<BR> =
holds it's=20
fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer=20
<BR>money.<BR><BR> =20
Adam<BR><BR> >=20
Rich<BR> =
><BR> =20
><BR> > =
"Adam"=20
<<A=20
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