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Skriven 2006-10-21 23:27:32 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Vista should only be used with ECC memory?
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>
On a side note Linux support for the Intel 965 chipset and Core 2 Duo really
sucks for a CD/DVD install/live boot ( even tried the Kubuntu 6.10 release
candidate to no avail )
http://www.codemonkeyx.net/node/12
However, somewhere along the line the decision was made by the Linux kernel
development community to not add support for the JMicron JMB368 chip that
pretty much every P965 motherboard is using to provide PATA drive support.
Because there is currently no Kernel support for this chip you can not easily
install Linux on any system if you have a PATA DVD-Rom drive or Hard-drive.
With no DVD you can not install Linux unless you try doing a network boot, or
use USB drives etc. But that is not practical for most people.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:45397203$1@w3.nls.net...
>> It's a desktop with a E6600 2.4 ghz Core 2 Duo and 2 gig ram.
>
> Cool, that should be even faster than my 5 month old Pentium 930 with 2GB
> RAM. You will get used to dual core pretty quickly.
>
>>I've already bled in the case though - usually a good sign as a sacrifice
>>to the computer gods. <g>
>
> So was it the kind that you bleed all over everything before you noticed
> the cut. (that's the best way. <g>)
>
> I knuckled under on my 930, I actually got a Dell...
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45393d33$1@w3.nls.net...
>> It's a desktop with a E6600 2.4 ghz Core 2 Duo and 2 gig ram. That's if
>> I don't break anything assembling it. I've already bled in the case
>> though - usually a good sign as a sacrifice to the computer gods. <g>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:4539202e@w3.nls.net...
>>>> Thanks. I may install it anyway as I just purchased the components for
>>>> a core 2 duo system and I need to really stress the mb, cpu and memory
>>>> before I install a stable OS on it. <g>
>>>
>>> Virtual machines...
>>>
>>> How much RAM and is it a laptop version of the CPU?
>>>
>>>> You probably just found one of the 1,400 bugs that RC2 shipped with.
>>>
>>> It's not an acknowledged bug by them, but I think it may be a symptom of
>>> something that may be.
>>>
>>>> Hopefully that will be fixed when an RTM of 500 ( or less ) known bugs
>>>> ships
>>>
>>> I doubt it. :(
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45391a3c@w3.nls.net...
>>>> Thanks. I may install it anyway as I just purchased the components for
>>>> a core 2 duo system and I need to really stress the mb, cpu and memory
>>>> before I install a stable OS on it. <g>
>>>>
>>>> You probably just found one of the 1,400 bugs that RC2 shipped with.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully that will be fixed when an RTM of 500 ( or less ) known bugs
>>>> ships
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:45390f6f@w3.nls.net...
>>>>> >I just saw some posts/responses on the
>>>>> >Microsoft.public.vista.installation_setup forum that said RC2
>>>>> >wouldn't install on less than 512. Of course the guy attempting the
>>>>> >installation had only 256 mb but was able to install Vista under an
>>>>> >earlier beta but not RC2.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can I say, I've installed it in less than 512M...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just did an msdn dl of RC2 last night and haven't attempted
>>>>>> anything with it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure I'd bother if I were you, it's not a real good quality
>>>>> build and RTM is coming soon. I can BSOD or lockup me new Pentium 930
>>>>> machine just by moving the mouse during boot. (and that's just the
>>>>> start of the problems.)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4538f3fc$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>I just saw some posts/responses on the
>>>>>>Microsoft.public.vista.installation_setup forum that said RC2 wouldn't
>>>>>>install on less than 512. Of course the guy attempting the
>>>>>>installation had only 256 mb but was able to install Vista under an
>>>>>>earlier beta but not RC2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just did an msdn dl of RC2 last night and haven't attempted
>>>>>> anything with it yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4538e7e7@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Vista RC2 won't even install if your memory is less than 500 mb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not a true statement, 512M is just the recommended. I've
>>>>>>> installed it in less. I wouldn't want to run it regularly in less,
>>>>>>> but it does work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 512M story came about because of a bug a few builds back...
>>>>>>> (6-months ago)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and many of the recommendations I've seen lately for Vista are 1
>>>>>>>> gig minimum, 2 gig comfortable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It depends on what you want to do and the GUI you want to run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4538e2e8$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Vista RC2 won't even install if your memory is less than 500 mb and
>>>>>>>> many of the recommendations I've seen lately for Vista are 1 gig
>>>>>>>> minimum, 2 gig comfortable. I think that rules out a good portion
>>>>>>>> of the computers currently out there. Microsoft's ECC
>>>>>>>> recommendation was for the system builders and new Vista hardware.
>>>>>>>> I doubt they care about upgrades of older hardware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt" <glb@gencog.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4538d134$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Most computers today aren't even setup to run with ECC so putting
>>>>>>>>> ECC memory in one of these computers either wouldn't provide ECC
>>>>>>>>> benefit or would keep the computer from even booting. Isn't this
>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny, it used to be that all motherboards were ECC memory, then
>>>>>>>>> windows 95 came in and suddenly all motherboards were non-ECC.
>>>>>>>>> Now a new version of windows wants to go back to ECC?? Why did we
>>>>>>>>> ever leave ECC to begin with? Was it to keep windows 95 from
>>>>>>>>> crashing left and right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4538c60c$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing if all memory were ECC ( overclocking
>>>>>>>>>> gamers would hate it though). I doubt many of the low to mid end
>>>>>>>>>> system builders will use ECC and it will be interesting to see
>>>>>>>>>> how much a bad rap Vista gets due to flacky memory
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:1obhj21b1g6bf2mpfv5f7njef031uls63v@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:54:12 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>>>>>>>>> <gauszka@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Nearly two years ago I met with Jim Allchin, co-President
>>>>>>>>>>>>Platforms and
>>>>>>>>>>>>Services Division at Microsoft who headed the Vista development
>>>>>>>>>>>>effort, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim said Vista should only be used with ECC memory. Virtually
>>>>>>>>>>>>every OEM had
>>>>>>>>>>>>a fit and PR folks piled on Jim so he wouldn't say that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>However, my
>>>>>>>>>>>>own experience with Vista suggests he may have been right.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ahhh ... the wisdom of the pajama consultant!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Vista uses memory aggressively and if there is a memory error
>>>>>>>>>>> it will blue
>>>>>>>>>>> screen."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And what OS wouldn't blue screen? It must be that Vista is
>>>>>>>>>>> accessing
>>>>>>>>>>> memory in different patterns that escaped previous usage and
>>>>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>>>> patterns. This is like the old OS/2 days where OS/2 was the
>>>>>>>>>>> bad guy
>>>>>>>>>>> because it tested all the RAM on the PC and crashed left and
>>>>>>>>>>> right.
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