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Text 15058, 103 rader
Skriven 2007-01-03 04:14:56 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15015 av Frank Haber (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Slow mouse in XP
============================
From: Gary Britt <GaryNOSPAMBritt@generalcogster.com>

Frank,

God save me from the "everybody knows what I am supposed to want" crowd.

Some vendors mice drivers get around the built-in XP pokey mouse acceleration
curves by adding a second layer filter driver on top of the XP mouse drivers,
and thereby provide decent and adjustable mouse acceleration.

However, not all vendors do this.  In particular synaptics, I would guess the
most popular laptop touchpad vendor, does not provide additional selectable
acceleration curves in its drives, and you are stuck with the pokey XP built-in
acceleration curves.  Worse, if you use an external mouse with your laptop that
works off of the PS/2 port drivers that are governed by the synaptics drivers
then more often that not you get stuck with pokey built-in XP acceleration
curves for your external mouse as well.

Finally, when using my synaptics touchpad on my laptop the acceleration was
never acceptably fast enough and except for this patch there is no way to
improve it.

>>Everyone knows that everyone wants
>> high acceleration

I don't remember saying anything to the contrary.  What I and apparently some
here, probably especially people who like me use a laptop full-time as their
main computer, want was selectable acceleration curves like we had in the past
before they got hard coded into XP under a new driver paradigm. Links to the
appropriate MS articles on this subject are at codecpage.com. I've read them. 
I don't think you have.

Also, not everyone wants the subpixilation movement built-in to the XP
paradigm.  That's where moving the mouse slowly has to be moved physically
farther than the resulting physical mouse movement on the screen.  This less
than 1 to 1 acceleration for slow movements that's built-in to the XP pokey
mouse driver paradigm might be great for graphic artists on a 24 inch wide
screen monitor at super high dpi resolutions, but its a piece of crap on my
laptop or my laptop plugged into a 17 inch lcd running at 1280 by 1024.

The only people out of their frickin mind on this were the designers of this
new XP pokey mouse paradigm at MS that designed out of the users available
choices selectable mouse acceleration curves like have existed for the past 10
years on all other MS operating systems.

The mouse acceleration curves in my modified files work great for me at both
slow and high speeds because they provide a little bit more speed at the low
end of mouse movement and a lot more speed in the middle and high end of
physical mouse acceleration.

You can find out for yourself by trying them.  However, if you have a new
$50 to $80 mouse with greater than 400 dpi resolution (the new XP pokey
mouse paradigm has 400 dpi hard coded into its formulas) backed up by a
hardware vendor's second tier driver filters that provide additional
acceleration over the built-in slow XP pokey mouse, then you probably already
have the choice of customizable acceleration curves.

For those of us who don't have that choice and wanted something a bit faster
than the built-in XP pokey acceleration curves, what I've provided is a
solution.  I don't give a rat's ass if I'm the only one who likes what I've
provided.  I developed it for me, and shared it for anyone who might be
interested.  If you don't need it.  Don't use it.  Its simple.  Being out of
one's mind is being AGAINST other people having the choices they want to make,
just because you don't understand their desire to make that choice. At least
that's my opinion.  I could be wrong.

I've got a year old laptop and several matching 3 year old logitech cordless
optical mice.  With these modifications I have what I need in a speedier and
more accelerated mouse, and I don't need to buy USB KVM switches so the mice
can be driven by non-ps/2 synaptics drivers, I don't need to buy two new $80
each high dpi mice, etc.  Someday when I get that 24 inch widescreen monitor,
I'll get that new high dpi mouse and I may not need these patches.
  However, even at that time I will likely need these mouse speed up patches
to make the synaptics touchpad on my laptop speedy enough.

Gary

Gary


Frank Haber wrote:
> For completeness:
>
> 1. All these base-velocity, acceleration, and accel-curve settings may
> be, and probably will be overwritten or overridden by MS Intellimouse,
> late Logi, and other complex vendor drivers.
>
> 2. Gary is out of his frickin' mind.  Everyone knows that everyone wants
> high acceleration (slow mouse for fine movements, high velocity on broad
> strokes, when you're in a Wii-ish mood.
>
> 3. If you use an optical mouse (and you're a masochist if you're not),
> take a look at the texture of your mousing surface.  I've seen the
> "weave" of a textured or faux-wood tabletop totally fake out a mouse,
> and give uneven H and V rates, or erratic operation, or both.
>
> 4. High-rate, modern rodents are a very good use of all the CPU we now
> have under your fingers.  No need to put up with the coarse-rez,
> first-generation optical you've always used, which may have compromises
> built in (to baby that P166 you put in the dumpster five years ago).

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