Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   18958/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1121
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3221
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13273
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4288
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   32953
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2061
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33903
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24128
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4408
FN_SYSOP   41679
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13599
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16070
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22093
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   926
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
Möte OSDEBATE, 18996 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 15363, 201 rader
Skriven 2007-01-13 10:06:20 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15360 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: george's preferences
================================
From: "Rich" <@>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0C6A_01C736FA.79180650
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

   I have no idea what you are talking about.  Only one thing opens =
automatically on first logon to a clean install of Vista and that is the =
Welcome Center to which I was referring.  To what exactly are you = referring
or are you just making stuff up?

   You have what you want.  Your whining, and something you have =
repeated over the years, is that you want the product defaults to be = your
personal preferences claiming that what you prefer for yourself is = what
everyone should prefer.  It's as bogus a suggestion now as it has = always
been.

Rich


  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net...
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net...

  >>   You are confusing setup and first logon.

  You know, for a first time user I can see where all the text and =
windows=20
  that vista pops up could be helpful. I'm not so far gone that I don't=20
  remember my very first time I used a computer, it was daunting and =
certainly=20
  all the explanations and offerings would help.

  But for someone who has been using windows since.. well since before =
program=20
  manager and file manager had icons (my first windows was text based =
GUI)=20
  it's like being in a car with a kid who keeps saying "are we there =
yet" with=20
  every popup. A simple folder on the desktop with shortcuts to all the =
new=20
  stuff would have been more than sufficient to explore the system.

  Windows really does need an install option that offers the choice=20
  "newbie/experienced/expert" so when it installs it can get turn off =
the=20
  newbie crap and wizards, enable classic everything, etc. for the rest =
of us.=20
  I mean really.. years ago when we moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there =
were how=20
  many windows users in the world? Today these people are windows users =
with=20
  7 YEARS experience, they don't need to be treated this way.

  When is Microsoft going to recognize it's ignored the experienced =
users and=20
  provide a version for us? I want raw sockets back, I want file =
extensions=20
  viewable by default, I want classic control panel, I want admin tools=20
  enabled by default, I want to hit network properties and see "shared =
files"=20
  instead of "show me all the files and folders I am sharing" I don't =
want=20
  "diagnose and repair" I want "diagnose" and "repair" so that I don't =
have to=20
  worry about the system modifying my settings simply because I want to=20
  troubleshoot something.

  The popup that warns me that nero smart start is incompatible with =
vista=20
  needs to give me more information, what is incompatible since =
disabling that=20
  stupid service that warns me seems to let nero smart start run just =
fine. If=20
  you are going to include DRM, then dammit have it tell me that it's =
the DRM=20
  that is stopping me from viewing HD video instead of making it look =
like a=20
  bug. I don't need to waste time trying to fix what MS breaks on =
purpose.=20
  Vista Ultimate has no network sniffer, why not include such a basic=20
  diagnostic tool in the ultimate version?

  Geo.=20

------=_NextPart_000_0C6A_01C736FA.79180650
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16386" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I have no idea what you =
are talking=20
about.&nbsp; Only one thing opens automatically on first logon to a = clean=20
install of Vista and that is the Welcome Center to which I was =
referring.&nbsp;=20
To what exactly are you referring or are you just making stuff =
up?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You have what you =
want.&nbsp; Your=20
whining, and something you have repeated over the years, is that you = want
the=20
product defaults to be your personal preferences claiming that what you =
prefer=20
for yourself is what everyone should prefer.&nbsp; It's as bogus a =
suggestion=20
now as it has always been.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Geo." &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  You are confusing setup and first logon.<BR><BR>You know, for a first =
time=20
  user I can see where all the text and windows <BR>that vista pops up =
could be=20
  helpful. I'm not so far gone that I don't <BR>remember my very first =
time I=20
  used a computer, it was daunting and certainly <BR>all the =
explanations and=20
  offerings would help.<BR><BR>But for someone who has been using =
windows=20
  since.. well since before program <BR>manager and file manager had =
icons (my=20
  first windows was text based GUI) <BR>it's like being in a car with a =
kid who=20
  keeps saying "are we there yet" with <BR>every popup. A simple folder =
on the=20
  desktop with shortcuts to all the new <BR>stuff would have been more =
than=20
  sufficient to explore the system.<BR><BR>Windows really does need an =
install=20
  option that offers the choice <BR>"newbie/experienced/expert" so when =
it=20
  installs it can get turn off the <BR>newbie crap and wizards, enable =
classic=20
  everything, etc. for the rest of us. <BR>I mean really.. years ago =
when we=20
  moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there were how <BR>many windows users in =
the=20
  world? Today these people are windows users with <BR>7 YEARS =
experience, they=20
  don't need to be treated this way.<BR><BR>When is Microsoft going to =
recognize=20
  it's ignored the experienced users and <BR>provide a version for us? I =
want=20
  raw sockets back, I want file extensions <BR>viewable by default, I =
want=20
  classic control panel, I want admin tools <BR>enabled by default, I =
want to=20
  hit network properties and see "shared files" <BR>instead of "show me =
all the=20
  files and folders I am sharing" I don't want <BR>"diagnose and repair" =
I want=20
  "diagnose" and "repair" so that I don't have to <BR>worry about the =
system=20
  modifying my settings simply because I want to <BR>troubleshoot=20
  something.<BR><BR>The popup that warns me that nero smart start is=20
  incompatible with vista <BR>needs to give me more information, what is =

  incompatible since disabling that <BR>stupid service that warns me =
seems to=20
  let nero smart start run just fine. If <BR>you are going to include =
DRM, then=20
  dammit have it tell me that it's the DRM <BR>that is stopping me from =
viewing=20
  HD video instead of making it look like a <BR>bug. I don't need to =
waste time=20
  trying to fix what MS breaks on purpose. <BR>Vista Ultimate has no =
network=20
  sniffer, why not include such a basic <BR>diagnostic tool in the =
ultimate=20
  version?<BR><BR>Geo. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0C6A_01C736FA.79180650--

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
 * Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)