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Ärende: Re: george's preferences
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From: "Rich" <@>
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The notifications to which you refer are not questions which is why =
they display quickly then disappear. I see few of these and could turn = those
off if they bothered me. If they bother you turn them off. I'm = still
surprised you see many. How many to a barrage?
Your preferences have not become standard. As for the firewall =
default change in SP2 I would turn it on before SP2 and am happy it is = on by
default. It can be a problem though because some common third = party products
would screw up when the firewall was on. I had several = friends that lost all
network access because mcafee or norton would turn = on their firewalls even if
previously disabled and whatever they do the = result was no network access not
just two firewalls. Maybe these = products have fixed this by now but it would
have been an even more = serious problem when Windows XP was first released.
That's besides the point. Most of your preferences are fine for you =
which is why they are options but the suggestion they be default is = silly.
You have repeated this for years and it is still silly.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:45a94229@w3.nls.net...
I'm referring to the barrage of those help bubbles that keep popping =
up from=20
the bottom of the screen and all the other questions the damn thing =
asks=20
when you first login and start clicking around.
As for my preferences, really? Gee you sure seem to have come around =
to=20
respect some of my security preferences since they have become the =
standard.=20
Firewall on by default post SP2, imagine that..
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45a92272@w3.nls.net...
I have no idea what you are talking about. Only one thing opens=20
automatically on first logon to a clean install of Vista and that is =
the=20
Welcome Center to which I was referring. To what exactly are you =
referring=20
or are you just making stuff up?
You have what you want. Your whining, and something you have =
repeated=20
over the years, is that you want the product defaults to be your =
personal=20
preferences claiming that what you prefer for yourself is what =
everyone=20
should prefer. It's as bogus a suggestion now as it has always been.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net...
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net...
>> You are confusing setup and first logon.
You know, for a first time user I can see where all the text and =
windows
that vista pops up could be helpful. I'm not so far gone that I =
don't
remember my very first time I used a computer, it was daunting and=20
certainly
all the explanations and offerings would help.
But for someone who has been using windows since.. well since before =
program
manager and file manager had icons (my first windows was text based =
GUI)
it's like being in a car with a kid who keeps saying "are we there =
yet"=20
with
every popup. A simple folder on the desktop with shortcuts to all =
the new
stuff would have been more than sufficient to explore the system.
Windows really does need an install option that offers the choice
"newbie/experienced/expert" so when it installs it can get turn off =
the
newbie crap and wizards, enable classic everything, etc. for the =
rest of=20
us.
I mean really.. years ago when we moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there =
were=20
how
many windows users in the world? Today these people are windows =
users with
7 YEARS experience, they don't need to be treated this way.
When is Microsoft going to recognize it's ignored the experienced =
users=20
and
provide a version for us? I want raw sockets back, I want file =
extensions
viewable by default, I want classic control panel, I want admin =
tools
enabled by default, I want to hit network properties and see "shared =
files"
instead of "show me all the files and folders I am sharing" I don't =
want
"diagnose and repair" I want "diagnose" and "repair" so that I don't =
have=20
to
worry about the system modifying my settings simply because I want =
to
troubleshoot something.
The popup that warns me that nero smart start is incompatible with =
vista
needs to give me more information, what is incompatible since =
disabling=20
that
stupid service that warns me seems to let nero smart start run just =
fine.=20
If
you are going to include DRM, then dammit have it tell me that it's =
the=20
DRM
that is stopping me from viewing HD video instead of making it look =
like a
bug. I don't need to waste time trying to fix what MS breaks on =
purpose.
Vista Ultimate has no network sniffer, why not include such a basic
diagnostic tool in the ultimate version?
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The notifications to which =
you refer=20
are not questions which is why they display quickly then = disappear. I
see=20
few of these and could turn those off if they bothered me. If they =
bother=20
you turn them off. I'm still surprised you see many. How = many to
a=20
barrage?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Your preferences have not =
become=20
standard. As for the firewall default change in SP2 I would turn = it
on=20
before SP2 and am happy it is on by default. It can be a problem =
though=20
because some common third party products would screw up when the = firewall
was=20
on. I had several friends that lost all network access because = mcafee
or=20
norton would turn on their firewalls even if previously disabled and =
whatever=20
they do the result was no network access not just two firewalls. =
Maybe=20
these products have fixed this by now but it would have been an even = more=20
serious problem when Windows XP was first released.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> That's besides the =
point. Most=20
of your preferences are fine for you which is why they are options but = the=20
suggestion they be default is silly. You have repeated this for = years
and=20
it is still silly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo." <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a94229@w3.nls.net">news:45a94229@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I'=
m=20
referring to the barrage of those help bubbles that keep popping up =
from=20
<BR>the bottom of the screen and all the other questions the damn =
thing asks=20
<BR>when you first login and start clicking around.<BR><BR>As for my=20
preferences, really? Gee you sure seem to have come around to =
<BR>respect some=20
of my security preferences since they have become the standard. =
<BR>Firewall=20
on by default post SP2, imagine that..<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Rich" =
<@>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a92272@w3.nls.net">news:45a92272@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
I have no idea what you are talking about. Only one thing opens=20
<BR>automatically on first logon to a clean install of Vista and that =
is the=20
<BR>Welcome Center to which I was referring. To what exactly are =
you=20
referring <BR>or are you just making stuff up?<BR><BR> You =
have=20
what you want. Your whining, and something you have repeated =
<BR>over=20
the years, is that you want the product defaults to be your personal=20
<BR>preferences claiming that what you prefer for yourself is what =
everyone=20
<BR>should prefer. It's as bogus a suggestion now as it has =
always=20
been.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR><BR> "Geo." <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR> =20
>> You are confusing setup and first =
logon.<BR><BR> =20
You know, for a first time user I can see where all the text and=20
windows<BR> that vista pops up could be helpful. I'm not so far =
gone=20
that I don't<BR> remember my very first time I used a computer, =
it was=20
daunting and <BR>certainly<BR> all the explanations and =
offerings would=20
help.<BR><BR> But for someone who has been using windows since.. =
well=20
since before <BR>program<BR> manager and file manager had icons =
(my=20
first windows was text based GUI)<BR> it's like being in a car =
with a=20
kid who keeps saying "are we there yet" <BR>with<BR> every =
popup. A=20
simple folder on the desktop with shortcuts to all the new<BR> =
stuff=20
would have been more than sufficient to explore the =
system.<BR><BR> =20
Windows really does need an install option that offers the =
choice<BR> =20
"newbie/experienced/expert" so when it installs it can get turn off=20
the<BR> newbie crap and wizards, enable classic everything, etc. =
for the=20
rest of <BR>us.<BR> I mean really.. years ago when we moved from =
NT/W89/me to W2K there were <BR>how<BR> many windows users in =
the world?=20
Today these people are windows users with<BR> 7 YEARS =
experience, they=20
don't need to be treated this way.<BR><BR> When is Microsoft =
going to=20
recognize it's ignored the experienced users <BR>and<BR> provide =
a=20
version for us? I want raw sockets back, I want file =
extensions<BR> =20
viewable by default, I want classic control panel, I want admin=20
tools<BR> enabled by default, I want to hit network properties =
and see=20
"shared <BR>files"<BR> instead of "show me all the files and =
folders I=20
am sharing" I don't want<BR> "diagnose and repair" I want =
"diagnose" and=20
"repair" so that I don't have <BR>to<BR> worry about the system=20
modifying my settings simply because I want to<BR> troubleshoot=20
something.<BR><BR> The popup that warns me that nero smart start =
is=20
incompatible with vista<BR> needs to give me more information, =
what is=20
incompatible since disabling <BR>that<BR> stupid service that =
warns me=20
seems to let nero smart start run just fine. <BR>If<BR> you are =
going to=20
include DRM, then dammit have it tell me that it's the =
<BR>DRM<BR> that=20
is stopping me from viewing HD video instead of making it look like=20
a<BR> bug. I don't need to waste time trying to fix what MS =
breaks on=20
purpose.<BR> Vista Ultimate has no network sniffer, why not =
include such=20
a basic<BR> diagnostic tool in the ultimate =
version?<BR><BR> =20
Geo.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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