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Skriven 2007-01-21 23:20:30 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15567 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Xbox 360 HD DVD 1080p
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   You interpret this differently than I.  My interpretation is that =
they are gauging demand for HDMI output from the Xbox 360.  The = implication I
read is that component was supported because it is more = compatible with
existing HDTVs.  HDCP is not mentioned at all so I can't = see how anyone can
make a valid inference on that.=20

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45b45994$1@w3.nls.net...
  Yes it is 1080p over vga and component. The point I was attempting ( =
not so=20
  clearly though ) was that the Microsoft gaming group appears leery of=20
  HDMI/HDCP

  http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

  To try to get to the bottom of this situation, IGN contacted Microsoft =
and=20
  asked a few tough questions. Plenty of questions remain -- we're =
waiting to=20
  hear even more from the company -- but here's what we have so far.

  IGN: Will games begin to be developed with 1080p as the native =
resolution,=20
  or is the 360's new 1080p support an advance in the console's internal =

  scaling abilities?

  Microsoft: If developed, the Xbox 360 will support playback of native =
1080p=20
  games and all existing Xbox 360 titles can be up-scaled to 1080p.

  IGN : Does the Xbox 360 have the internal bandwidth between CPUs and=20
  graphics processors necessary to move a full 1080p image? There's a =
big=20
  difference between 1080i and the 3GB/s of 1080p.

  Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the necessary internal =
bandwidth=20
  between CPUs and graphics processors to move a full 1080p image.

  IGN: There are very few 1080p native HDTVs that accept 1080p via =
Component=20
  connections. The signal will only come in as 1080i and be =
de-interlaced back=20
  to 1080p. How is the 360's new 1080p support, in practical =
application,=20
  going to be any different than what was already possible?

  Microsoft: We can offer 1080p support through both the VGA connection =
and=20
  the Component connection.

  IGN: Could Microsoft theoretically release an HDMI dongle-cable like =
the=20
  various other cables already available for the console? Is the current =
360=20
  hardware able to output a digital signal, or is it restricted to =
analog?

  Microsoft: Xbox 360 supports HD Component video output, which is =
compatible=20
  with nearly every HD ready TV on the market today. That's not yet true =
for=20
  HDMI. We are watching the market closely and will continue to evaluate =
our=20
  solution, in the face of consumer demand.



  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45b45585@w3.nls.net...
     I don't have an HD DVD so I can't answer.  Are you sure?  The first =
two=20
  items of=20
  =
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-novemberupdate-complet=
elist.htm=20
  are below, emphasis mine.

    New Features

      a.. HD 1080p video mode support over VGA and component cables.
      b.. Xbox 360T HD DVD Player support.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message=20
  news:45b4469f@w3.nls.net...
    It's a bit curious that Microsoft released their Xbox 360 HD DVD =
player=20
  with only 1080P support via their optional VGA cable ( I own both =
along with=20
  the hd copy of Kong that came with the player)


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You interpret this =
differently than=20
I.&nbsp; My interpretation is that they are gauging demand for HDMI = output
from=20
the Xbox 360.&nbsp; The implication I read is that component was = supported=20
because it is more compatible with existing HDTVs.&nbsp; HDCP is not =
mentioned=20
at all so I can't see how anyone can make a valid inference on=20
that.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b45994$1@w3.nls.net">news:45b45994$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Yes=20
  it is 1080p over vga and component. The point I was attempting ( not =
so=20
  <BR>clearly though ) was that the Microsoft gaming group appears leery =
of=20
  <BR>HDMI/HDCP<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html">http://gear.ign.c=
om/articles/735/735860p1.html</A><BR><BR>To=20
  try to get to the bottom of this situation, IGN contacted Microsoft =
and=20
  <BR>asked a few tough questions. Plenty of questions remain -- we're =
waiting=20
  to <BR>hear even more from the company -- but here's what we have so=20
  far.<BR><BR>IGN: Will games begin to be developed with 1080p as the =
native=20
  resolution, <BR>or is the 360's new 1080p support an advance in the =
console's=20
  internal <BR>scaling abilities?<BR><BR>Microsoft: If developed, the =
Xbox 360=20
  will support playback of native 1080p <BR>games and all existing Xbox =
360=20
  titles can be up-scaled to 1080p.<BR><BR>IGN : Does the Xbox 360 have =
the=20
  internal bandwidth between CPUs and <BR>graphics processors necessary =
to move=20
  a full 1080p image? There's a big <BR>difference between 1080i and the =
3GB/s=20
  of 1080p.<BR><BR>Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the =
necessary=20
  internal bandwidth <BR>between CPUs and graphics processors to move a =
full=20
  1080p image.<BR><BR>IGN: There are very few 1080p native HDTVs that =
accept=20
  1080p via Component <BR>connections. The signal will only come in as =
1080i and=20
  be de-interlaced back <BR>to 1080p. How is the 360's new 1080p =
support, in=20
  practical application, <BR>going to be any different than what was =
already=20
  possible?<BR><BR>Microsoft: We can offer 1080p support through both =
the VGA=20
  connection and <BR>the Component connection.<BR><BR>IGN: Could =
Microsoft=20
  theoretically release an HDMI dongle-cable like the <BR>various other =
cables=20
  already available for the console? Is the current 360 <BR>hardware =
able to=20
  output a digital signal, or is it restricted to =
analog?<BR><BR>Microsoft: Xbox=20
  360 supports HD Component video output, which is compatible <BR>with =
nearly=20
  every HD ready TV on the market today. That's not yet true for =
<BR>HDMI. We=20
  are watching the market closely and will continue to evaluate our=20
  <BR>solution, in the face of consumer demand.<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Rich" =
&lt;@&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b45585@w3.nls.net">news:45b45585@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  I don't have an HD DVD so I can't answer.&nbsp; Are you sure?&nbsp; =
The first=20
  two <BR>items of <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-novemberupdate=
-completelist.htm">http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-nov=
emberupdate-completelist.htm</A>=20
  <BR>are below, emphasis mine.<BR><BR>&nbsp; New=20
  Features<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a.. HD 1080p video mode support =
over VGA=20
  and component cables.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b.. Xbox 360T HD DVD =
Player=20
  support.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b4469f@w3.nls.net">news:45b4469f@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; It's=20
  a bit curious that Microsoft released their Xbox 360 HD DVD player =
<BR>with=20
  only 1080P support via their optional VGA cable ( I own both along =
with=20
  <BR>the hd copy of Kong that came with the=20
player)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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