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Text 15924, 185 rader
Skriven 2007-02-07 07:20:16 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15920 av Adam (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Some of the real costs of the IP madness
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   Yes.  The Russians make their own decisions.

Rich

  "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the bridge"> =
wrote in message news:45c9a026$1@w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    Of course you aren't.  The Russian criminal justice system is.

  Oh what a beautiful spin meister you are.

  ROFLMAO

  & Russia just thought of all this by itself & said "I know let's
  introduce some IPR laws which have nothing to do with keeping the US =
happy"

  e.g.

  =
http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=3D116&res=3D1024_ff&print=3D0

  "According to Russia=92s lead negotiator on WTO accession, Maxim
  Medvedkov, his government is being asked by the United States
  bilaterally to commit to provide more protections for intellectual
  property rights than it must do in acceding to the WTO. He stressed =
that
  Russia agrees with and is fulfilling all intellectual property rights
  terms of the WTO. But he said the talks are related and proceeding
  simultaneously."

  "But some countries, especially the United States, who have recognised
  the advance of technology and other issues that make it necessary to
  develop new levels of protection for their intellectual property, are
  pushing at the bilateral level to get countries to exceed TRIPS. This
  appears to be the case with Russia.

  "

  Oh dear me ...the Russian CJS just does it's job which is to enforce =
the
  laws laid down. Those laws are being dictated wrt IPR by the US & The =
US
  position is driven by the US IP cartel of which your employer is a =
major
  part/funder.



  Nice attempt at a wriggle though.

  >  This is why you should complain if it is important to you.=20

  Why complain to the monkey? The IP Cartel is driving the US gov which =
is
  then pushing the Russian gov. It's the organ grinder's fault the =
monkey
  dances.

  > You might want to complain to your own government that it=20
  > too considers theft and other crimes that could be satisfied=20
  > by civil actions also to be criminal.

  It's not theft nor is it rape nor genocide nor murder. It is copyright
  infringement.

  Adam




  > Rich
  >=20
  >   "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the bridge"> =
wrote in message news:45c8e107@w3.nls.net...
  >   Rich wrote:
  >   >    Great.  You should do so again since this action of the =
Russians appears to be important to you.
  >   >=20
  >=20
  >   I'm not the one pushing for the criminalization of what is at best =
a
  >   civil action.
  >=20
  >   You are the one who wants the state involved in criminalizing =
matters to
  >   do with "products of the mind" not I.
  >=20
  >   Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; The Russians =
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  <DIV>"Adam" &lt;"<A=20
  =
href=3D'mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"@the</A>=20
  field.near the bridge"&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
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V>Rich=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course you aren't.&nbsp; The =
Russian=20
  criminal justice system is.<BR><BR>Oh what a beautiful spin meister =
you=20
  are.<BR><BR>ROFLMAO<BR><BR>&amp; Russia just thought of all this by =
itself=20
  &amp; said "I know let's<BR>introduce some IPR laws which have nothing =
to do=20
  with keeping the US happy"<BR><BR>e.g.<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=3D116&amp;res=3D1024_f=
f&amp;print=3D0">http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=3D116&amp;res=
=3D1024_ff&amp;print=3D0</A><BR><BR>"According=20
  to Russia=92s lead negotiator on WTO accession, Maxim<BR>Medvedkov, =
his=20
  government is being asked by the United States<BR>bilaterally to =
commit to=20
  provide more protections for intellectual<BR>property rights than it =
must do=20
  in acceding to the WTO. He stressed that<BR>Russia agrees with and is=20
  fulfilling all intellectual property rights<BR>terms of the WTO. But =
he said=20
  the talks are related and proceeding<BR>simultaneously."<BR><BR>"But =
some=20
  countries, especially the United States, who have recognised<BR>the =
advance of=20
  technology and other issues that make it necessary to<BR>develop new =
levels of=20
  protection for their intellectual property, are<BR>pushing at the =
bilateral=20
  level to get countries to exceed TRIPS. This<BR>appears to be the case =
with=20
  Russia.<BR><BR>"<BR><BR>Oh dear me ...the Russian CJS just does it's =
job which=20
  is to enforce the<BR>laws laid down. Those laws are being dictated wrt =
IPR by=20
  the US &amp; The US<BR>position is driven by the US IP cartel of which =
your=20
  employer is a major<BR>part/funder.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Nice attempt at a =
wriggle=20
  though.<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp; This is why you should complain if it is =
important=20
  to you. <BR><BR>Why complain to the monkey? The IP Cartel is driving =
the US=20
  gov which is<BR>then pushing the Russian gov. It's the organ grinder's =
fault=20
  the monkey<BR>dances.<BR><BR>&gt; You might want to complain to your =
own=20
  government that it <BR>&gt; too considers theft and other crimes that =
could be=20
  satisfied <BR>&gt; by civil actions also to be criminal.<BR><BR>It's =
not theft=20
  nor is it rape nor genocide nor murder. It is=20
  copyright<BR>infringement.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt; =

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