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Skriven 2007-02-22 20:23:40 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Legacy setup program behavior
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   It would be foolish to try to extrapolate from some legacy setup =
programs to all programs.

Rich

  "John Beamish" <JLBeamish@rogers.com> wrote in message =
news:op.tn6jv2bim6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
  I wasn't referring to the prompt ... just the packaging.  I've got =
some =20
  good resources from MS about Project and they came as four EXE files.  =
=20
  There was another case where the docs and stuff covered perhaps 20 =20
  different files and they could have been easily included in a single =20
  compressed folder/file.

  On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:34:57 -0500, Rich  wrote:

  >    I never understood why they don't do single file documents as is. =
 I =20
  > don't see much benefit in packing them in an archive.  They can =
still be =20
  > compressed over HTTP.  It may not be as fast for dial-up users but =
it is =20
  > much simpler for everyone.  I do see a number of documents this way.
  >
  >    The prompt to which you refer is for the signature not for =
elevation.
  >
  > Rich
  >   "John Beamish" <JLBeamish@rogers.com> wrote in message =20
  > news:op.tn4nhv0lm6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
  >   I've never understood why the files couldn't simply be bundled as =
a
  >   ZIP/compressed folder (note: not the compressed folders that run =
with a
  >   zip extractor, just the compressed folder).  That way, from my
  >   perspective, I get to make the choice when I decide to open the =
folder
  >   just, as you point out, that I have to confirm the choice when I'm =
=20
  > running
  >   the EXE.
  >
  >   On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:46:59 -0500, Rich  wrote:
  >
  >   >    Downloaded EXEs have an extra layer of security on both =
Windows XP
  >   > and Windows Vista.  There is an extra prompt confirming you want =
to =20
  > run
  >   > something downloaded from the Internet and displaying the =
digital
  >   > signature.  Don't run such EXEs from a non-trusted source.
  >   >
  >   >    The ZIP self-extractors that are sometimes used to package
  >   > documentation files do not run elevated.  Try it yourself with
  >   > =20
  > =
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3D1880bfe5-c73c-=
4eec-a766-919cc56b6586&DisplayLang=3Den.
  >   >
  >   > Rich

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It would be foolish to try =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"John Beamish" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:JLBeamish@rogers.com">JLBeamish@rogers.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:op.tn6jv2bim6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com=
">news:op.tn6jv2bim6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com</A>..=
.</DIV>I=20
  wasn't referring to the prompt ... just the packaging.&nbsp; I've got=20
  some&nbsp; <BR>good resources from MS about Project and they came as =
four EXE=20
  files.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>There was another case where the docs and stuff =
covered=20
  perhaps 20&nbsp; <BR>different files and they could have been easily =
included=20
  in a single&nbsp; <BR>compressed folder/file.<BR><BR>On Thu, 22 Feb =
2007=20
  00:34:57 -0500, Rich&nbsp; wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
never=20
  understood why they don't do single file documents as is.&nbsp; =
I&nbsp;=20
  <BR>&gt; don't see much benefit in packing them in an archive.&nbsp; =
They can=20
  still be&nbsp; <BR>&gt; compressed over HTTP.&nbsp; It may not be as =
fast for=20
  dial-up users but it is&nbsp; <BR>&gt; much simpler for =
everyone.&nbsp; I do=20
  see a number of documents this way.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
The=20
  prompt to which you refer is for the signature not for=20
  elevation.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; "John Beamish" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:JLBeamish@rogers.com">JLBeamish@rogers.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:op.tn4nhv0lm6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com=
">news:op.tn4nhv0lm6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com</A>..=
.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I've never understood why the files couldn't simply be bundled as=20
  a<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ZIP/compressed folder (note: not the compressed =
folders=20
  that run with a<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; zip extractor, just the compressed =

  folder).&nbsp; That way, from my<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; perspective, I =
get to=20
  make the choice when I decide to open the folder<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
just, as=20
  you point out, that I have to confirm the choice when I'm&nbsp; =
<BR>&gt;=20
  running<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; the EXE.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; On =
Tue, 20=20
  Feb 2007 11:46:59 -0500, Rich&nbsp; wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Downloaded EXEs have an extra layer of security =
on both=20
  Windows XP<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; and Windows Vista.&nbsp; There is =
an extra=20
  prompt confirming you want to&nbsp; <BR>&gt; run<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;=20
  something downloaded from the Internet and displaying the=20
  digital<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; signature.&nbsp; Don't run such EXEs =
from a=20
  non-trusted source.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The ZIP self-extractors that are sometimes used =
to=20
  package<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; documentation files do not run=20
  elevated.&nbsp; Try it yourself with<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
<BR>&gt;=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3D1880bf=
e5-c73c-4eec-a766-919cc56b6586&amp;DisplayLang=3Den">http://www.microsoft=
.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3D1880bfe5-c73c-4eec-a766-919cc56b65=
86&amp;DisplayLang=3Den</A>.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Rich<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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