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Skriven 2007-02-27 23:17:06 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
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Ärende: Re: Adobe 8 Activation  nightmare
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>

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Yet there are multiple standards issued from the same company for copy =
protection( PlaysForSure, Zune DRM ). I wouldn't describe that as = attempting
to avoid interoperability problems.

 FWIW - My diatribe isn't meant to be directed at Microsoft solely - =
just the current quagmire that is DRM


  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net...
     PlaysForSure tackles the same problem as apple tries with itunes =
and their fairplay.  The key difference is that PlaysForSure is widely =
licensed to avoid the interoperability problems that apple has with = itunes. 
Apple could license PlaysForSure if they wanted.

     I don't think the DRM applications to which you refer to are =
generically corporate interests as much as they are content owner = interests. 
This is why steve jobs stated the obvious when asserting = that he would like
to offer other people's content without any DRM.  Of = course he would as would
probably everyone else who has no interest in = the content itself.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net...
    or you have the idiocy with Microsoft's PlaysForSure certification. =
DRM=20
    is currently a mess with various corporate entities in a power =
struggle=20
    for control of a market without care of how it affects (screws) the=20
    consumer. The average consumer I know either by facial expression or =

    vocally expresses a dissatisfaction with the current state of =
affairs

    http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/

    While it still appears to be true that PlaysForSure content won't =
work=20
    on a Zune, the reverse is completely hunky doory. You can seemingly =
drag=20
    songs from the Zune Marketplace onto any PlaysForSure device, like=20
    offerings from Rio and Creative.



    Rich wrote:
    >    I don't see average consumers misusing the term.  I see =
strongly=20
    > opinionated and technical folks like those that would have their =
own=20
    > blog or would post to a public forum.  This isn't a consumer topic =

    > beyond that some folks are trying to make it one.  That isn't to =
say=20
    > there aren't real issues with interoperability and longevity such =
as you=20
    > read about lately with itunes.  This is just a single application =
of=20
    > DRM.  The same aspects that are an issue for this application are =
not=20
    > issues for the application of DRM to your medical records or =
sensitive=20
    > corporate documents.
    > =20
    > Rich
    > =20
    >=20
    >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
    >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote in message
    >     news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net...
    >     I don't disagree. The notable constant though is that people =
are
    >     including DRM in their complaints just because they can. If =
DRM was as
    >     beneficial for consumers as the industry propagandists spout I =
highly
    >     doubt you'd see this trend.
    >=20
    >=20
    >     Rich wrote:
    >      >    It's not just DRM and this, it's DRM and anything people =
want to
    >      > complain about that can be stretched to garner more =
support.=20
    >     Broadly I
    >      > see it used for anything that restricts access, copying, or
    >     similar.  I
    >      > think people believe they will get more sympathy for their
    >     position from
    >      > a certain audience if they apply the term DRM than if they =
are
    >     honest.
    >      >=20
    >      > Rich
    >      >=20
    >      >
    >      >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
    >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
    >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote in message
    >      >     news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net...
    >      >     I understand the point you are making. Unfortunately, =
like it
    >     or not,
    >      >     DRM and Activation are starting to be used =
interchangeably in
    >     everyday
    >      >     use ( as in the Infoworld Gripeline blog )
    >      >
    >      >
    >      >     Rich wrote:
    >      >      >    This is neither a content nor a service which is =
one
    >     reason I
    >      >      > questioned the use of DRM.  I think the new subject =
is
    >     appropriate.
    >      >      >
    >      >      > Rich
    >      >      >
    >      >      >
    >      >      >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
    >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
    >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
    >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote in =
message
    >      >      >     news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net...
    >      >      >     It's an inane activation scheme. From =
Microsoft's own
    >      >     definition one
    >      >      >     could make the case that Adobe's activation is a =
content
    >      >     owner setting
    >      >      >     the business rules of a file ( a program in this =
case
    >     ). Most
    >      >     would use
    >      >      >     'activation' for clarity in this context - so =
Subject
    >     changed
    >      >      >
    >      >      >     =
http://www.microsoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d
    >      >      >
    >      >      >     digital rights management (DRM)
    >      >      >
    >      >      >     Any technology used to protect the interests of =
owners of
    >      >     content and
    >      >      >     services (such as copyright owners). Typically, =
authorized
    >      >      >     recipients or
    >      >      >     users must acquire a license in order to consume =
the
    >     protected
    >      >      >     material=97files, music, movies=97according to =
the rights or
    >      >     business rules
    >      >      >     set by the content owner.
    >      >      >
    >      >      >
    >      >      >     Rich wrote:
    >      >      >      >    What does this have to do with DRM?  Or do =
you
    >     use DRM for
    >      >      >     everything
    >      >      >      > from actual DRM to encrypted email to =
password
    >     protected ZIP
    >      >      >     files to
    >      >      >      > SSL/TLS?
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      > Rich
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     "Rich Gauszka" =
<gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com
    >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
    >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
    >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
    >      >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>> =
wrote in
    >     message
    >      >      >      >     news:45e4792a$1@w3.nls.net...
    >      >      >      >     Adobe - If you use a disk defragger the
    >     activation doesn't
    >      >      >     like it?
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      > =20
    >      >      >  =20
    >      >   =20
    >     =
http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acrobat_activat.ht=
ml
    >      >      >      >     when it comes to stupid IT designs as far =
as the
    >      >     activation
    >      >      >     issues I
    >      >      >      >     encountered with Adobe. I upgraded from =
Acrobat
    >     7.0 to
    >      >     8.0,
    >      >      >     because the
    >      >      >      >     demos and features looked great. After
    >     installing it,
    >      >     I didn't
    >      >      >      >     really use it
    >      >      >      >     for a few months. Then I went to use it =
and it
    >     said it
    >      >     was not
    >      >      >      >     activated."
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     When the reader went to the menu, he was =
puzzled to
    >      >     see both the
    >      >      >      >     "Activate'
    >      >      >      >     and "Deactivate' buttons turned off. =
"Seems
    >     stupid --
    >      >      >     shouldn't one
    >      >      >      >     always
    >      >      >      >     be highlighted?" the reader wondered. =
"After
    >     calling in,
    >      >      >     Adobe told
    >      >      >      >     me to
    >      >      >      >     run the repair function. I did, and it =
worked
    >     for one day,
    >      >      >     and then
    >      >      >      >     it was
    >      >      >      >     deactivated again and both buttons were =
off
    >     again. I
    >      >     called again
    >      >      >      >     and waited
    >      >      >      >     on hold forever to be told to uninstall =
and
    >     reinstall.
    >      >     So I
    >      >      >      >     uninstalled and
    >      >      >      >     it deactivated. I went to reinstall and =
it said
    >     I did
    >      >     not have an
    >      >      >      >     original
    >      >      >      >     product to upgrade from. Wow, like I'm =
supposed to
    >      >     keep all
    >      >      >      >     hundred-plus key
    >      >      >      >     codes I've ever had from Adobe. So after =
about
    >     3 more
    >      >     people
    >      >      >     and a
    >      >      >      >     lot more
    >      >      >      >     time on the phone I got around the =
installation and
    >      >     activated
    >      >      >     again
    >      >      >      >     with a
    >      >      >      >     temp key. Then within hours it =
deactivated again."
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     The reader then entered a support =
nightmare
    >     from which
    >      >     he is
    >      >      >     yet to
    >      >      >      >     awaken.
    >      >      >      >     For weeks on end, tech after tech would =
tell him to
    >      >     run the
    >      >      >     repair
    >      >      >      >     function
    >      >      >      >     and reinstall. When that wouldn't work, =
the techs
    >      >     would begin
    >      >      >      >     speculating as
    >      >      >      >     to what changes he should make to him =
computer to
    >      >     placate the
    >      >      >      >     activation
    >      >      >      >     gods. "Gee, the guy would say, why do you =
need to
    >      >     mirror your
    >      >      >     hard
    >      >      >      >     drive?"
    >      >      >      >     the reader wrote. "Then they send me to =
another and
    >      >     the guy says,
    >      >      >      >     gee, if
    >      >      >      >     you upgrade or restore your drive, or =
change your
    >      >      >     configuration, or
    >      >      >      >     backup
    >      >      >      >     to Ghost, or use a RAID array, or use a =
disk
    >      >     defragger, the
    >      >      >     activation
    >      >      >      >     doesn't like it. Then they start asking =
why I
    >     need to
    >      >     do these
    >      >      >      >     things, which
    >      >      >      >     is none of their business."
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     Some of the Adobe techs mentioned that =
what the
    >     reader
    >      >     really
    >      >      >     needed
    >      >      >      >     to fix
    >      >      >      >     the activation problem was "Patch 2.70."
    >      >     Unfortunately, it seems
    >      >      >      >     Patch 2.70
    >      >      >      >     is not provided to just any old Acrobat
    >     customer, and the
    >      >      >     reader had to
    >      >      >      >     supplicate his way up the support ladder =
to find
    >      >     someone who
    >      >      >     could
    >      >      >      >     authorize
    >      >      >      >     sending it to him. "I finally get to the =
right
    >     guy and
    >      >     he asks me
    >      >      >      >     why I need
    >      >      >      >     it and why I can't stop mirroring and
    >     defragging and
    >      >     using Ghost.
    >      >      >      >     Finally he
    >      >      >      >     says he'll escalate the issue and I'll =
have an
    >     e-mail
    >      >     in 24
    >      >      >     hours.
    >      >      >      >     Next day
    >      >      >      >     there's no e-mail so I call back. It was =
never
    >      >     escalated and
    >      >      >     I have
    >      >      >      >     to start
    >      >      >      >     the process of filing to get the patch =
all over
    >     again."
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     The reader is a stubborn man, though, and =
he
    >      >     eventually prevailed
    >      >      >      >     upon Adobe
    >      >      >      >     to send him Patch 2.70. It didn't help. =
Several
    >     more
    >      >     weeks of
    >      >      >      >     escalations to
    >      >      >      >     supervisors and higher levels of Adobe =
support have
    >      >     followed,
    >      >      >     without
    >      >      >      >     success. Last week Adobe promised to send =
him a
    >     copy
    >      >     of Acrobat -
    >      >      >      >     presumably
    >      >      >      >     the corporate version - that would get =
around
    >     the problem.
    >      >      >     But at last
    >      >      >      >     report it still hasn't shown, so the =
reader's
    >     copy of
    >      >     Acrobat
    >      >      >     8 remains
    >      >      >      >     deactivated.
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >
    >      >      >      >     "The amount of time, support, and money =
that
    >     Adobe and
    >      >     I have
    >      >      >     wasted
    >      >      >      >     on this
    >      >      >      >     is crazy," the reader wrote. "I =
understand
    >     protecting your
    >      >      >     product, but
    >      >      >      >     these people have gone way overboard with =
this
    >      >     activation that's
    >      >      >      >     tied so
    >      >      >      >     closely to the hardware that you can't do =
anything
    >      >     that doesn't
    >      >      >      >     upset it.
    >      >      >      >     Many people back up, restore, defrag and =
mirror
    >     disks and
    >      >      >     many more
    >      >      >      >     will do
    >      >      >      >     so as the prices come down. I think Adobe =
needs to
    >      >     clean some
    >      >      >      >     management
    >      >      >      >     house, toss out this stupid activation =
process, and
    >      >     get something
    >      >      >      >     that works
    >      >      >      >     instead of the runaround."
    >      >      >      >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yet there are multiple standards issued =
from the=20
same company for copy protection( PlaysForSure, Zune DRM ). I wouldn't =
describe=20
that as attempting to avoid interoperability problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;FWIW - My diatribe isn't meant to =
be directed=20
at Microsoft solely&nbsp;- just the current quagmire that is = DRM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net">news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; PlaysForSure tackles the =
same=20
  problem as apple tries with itunes and their fairplay.&nbsp; The key=20
  difference is that PlaysForSure is widely licensed to avoid the=20
  interoperability problems that apple has with itunes.&nbsp; Apple =
could=20
  license PlaysForSure if they wanted.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think the DRM =
applications=20
  to which you refer to are generically corporate interests as much as =
they are=20
  content owner interests.&nbsp; This is why steve jobs stated the =
obvious when=20
  asserting that he would like to offer other people's content without =
any=20
  DRM.&nbsp; Of course he would as would probably everyone else who has =
no=20
  interest in the content itself.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>or=20
    you have the idiocy with Microsoft's PlaysForSure certification. DRM =
<BR>is=20
    currently a mess with various corporate entities in a power struggle =
<BR>for=20
    control of a market without care of how it affects (screws) the=20
    <BR>consumer. The average consumer I know either by facial =
expression or=20
    <BR>vocally expresses a dissatisfaction with the current state of=20
    affairs<BR><BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/">http://www.mobi=
lemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/</A><BR><BR>While=20
    it still appears to be true that PlaysForSure content won't work =
<BR>on a=20
    Zune, the reverse is completely hunky doory. You can seemingly drag=20
    <BR>songs from the Zune Marketplace onto any PlaysForSure device, =
like=20
    <BR>offerings from Rio and Creative.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Rich=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't see average consumers =
misusing the=20
    term.&nbsp; I see strongly <BR>&gt; opinionated and technical folks =
like=20
    those that would have their own <BR>&gt; blog or would post to a =
public=20
    forum.&nbsp; This isn't a consumer topic <BR>&gt; beyond that some =
folks are=20
    trying to make it one.&nbsp; That isn't to say <BR>&gt; there aren't =
real=20
    issues with interoperability and longevity such as you <BR>&gt; read =
about=20
    lately with itunes.&nbsp; This is just a single application of =
<BR>&gt;=20
    DRM.&nbsp; The same aspects that are an issue for this application =
are not=20
    <BR>&gt; issues for the application of DRM to your medical records =
or=20
    sensitive <BR>&gt; corporate documents.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich =
Gauszka"=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    I don't disagree. The notable constant though is that people=20
    are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; including DRM in their =
complaints just=20
    because they can. If DRM was as<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
beneficial=20
    for consumers as the industry propagandists spout I=20
    highly<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doubt you'd see this =
trend.<BR>&gt;=20
    <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
It's not=20
    just DRM and this, it's DRM and anything people want=20
    to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; complain about that =
can be=20
    stretched to garner more support. <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Broadly=20
    I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; see it used for =
anything that=20
    restricts access, copying, or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
similar.&nbsp;=20
    I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; think people believe =
they will=20
    get more sympathy for their<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; position =

    from<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; a certain audience =
if they=20
    apply the term DRM than if they are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    honest.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net">news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I understand the point you are making.=20
    Unfortunately, like it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; or=20
    not,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DRM=20
    and Activation are starting to be used interchangeably=20
    in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    everyday<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    use ( as in the Infoworld Gripeline blog=20
    )<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is =
neither a=20
    content nor a service which is one<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
reason=20
    I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt; questioned the use of DRM.&nbsp; I think the new subject=20
    is<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    appropriate.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"Rich=20
    Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It's =
an=20
    inane activation scheme. From Microsoft's=20
    own<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    definition one<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
could make=20
    the case that Adobe's activation is a=20
    content<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    owner setting<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the =
business=20
    rules of a file ( a program in this =
case<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ).=20
    Most<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    would use<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
'activation'=20
    for clarity in this context - so =
Subject<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    changed<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d">http://www.mic=
rosoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
digital=20
    rights management (DRM)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Any=20
    technology used to protect the interests of owners=20
    of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    content and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
services=20
    (such as copyright owners). Typically,=20
    authorized<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
recipients=20
    or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; users must acquire a license in order =
to=20
    consume the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    protected<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    material=97files, music, movies=97according to the rights=20
    or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    business rules<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; set =
by the=20
    content owner.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich =

    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What does this have to do with DRM?&nbsp; Or =
do=20
    you<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use DRM=20
    for<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    everything<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    from actual DRM to encrypted email to=20
    password<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; protected=20
    ZIP<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; files =
to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    SSL/TLS?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
    Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
    wrote in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
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&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adobe - If you use a disk defragger=20
    the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; activation=20
    doesn't<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; like =

    it?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acrobat_ac=
tivat.html">http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acroba=
t_activat.html</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; when it comes to stupid IT designs as =
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    the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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    with Adobe. I upgraded from Acrobat<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
7.0=20
    to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    8.0,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    features looked great. After<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
installing=20
    it,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
    didn't<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    months. Then I went to use it and it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; was=20
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    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When the reader went to the menu, he =
was=20
    puzzled to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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    "Seems<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; stupid=20
    --<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be highlighted?" the reader wondered.=20
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    in,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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    &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; run the repair function. I did, and it=20
    worked<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for one=20
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