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Skriven 2007-03-11 11:54:34 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 17015 av mike (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: mike miller lies regarding Daylight-Saving Time Woes
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   mike miller still lying.  What a surprise.

   If you even bothered to read what you quoted, which you may have done =
but ignored in order to continue your lying, you would have noticed the = tool
is called "Time Zone Data Update Tool for Microsoft Office = Outlook".  Note
that it is not a change to Outlook or even an update for = or to Outlook but a
tool for users of Outlook to make changes to their = data that is incorrect
because of the time zone change.

Rich


  "mike" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:27g8v25p9bm566c4luj2n9e18oitthr3tf@4ax.com...
  On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:59:28 +0200, "Antti Kurenniemi"
  <NOantti@SPAManttikPLEASE.com> wrote:

  >"mike" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message=20
  >news:86t7v2t4jura75k1ldns6mnuq17pea721v@4ax.com...
  >>>> I still cannot understand why MS Outlook needs to be patched?  Or =
other
  >>>> MS applications.  Shouldn't MS Outlook (and other applications) =
be able
  >>>> to obtain daylight savings info from the underlying OS?  It's not =
like
  >>>> MS Outlook was written by some obscure software vendor that knows
  >>>> nothing about the intermingling of apps and system software....
  >>>
  >>>Darn good question.
  >>
  >>
  >> I see now we are hearing that Outlook does not need to be =
"patched", it
  >> needs to be "updated".   I also see that all the affected Microsoft
  >> products need to be "updated" not "patched".
  >
  >Well it is a change that no one, not even Microsoft, could know =
beforehand,=20
  >so I think "update" is fair. To me, "patching" implies an error in =
the=20
  >software which in this case it is not.


  I don't disagree with that.  It is more semantics than anything else,
  e.g., how can you apply an update - via a patch.

  But I'm still wondering why Microsoft is recommending updating =
Outlook,
  i.e., why it doesn't just get its time zone info from the OS?

  http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_prodlist#O2003
  =3D=3D=3D
  Outlook 2003
  Download Microsoft Office Outlook Tool: Time Zone Data Update Tool for
  Microsoft Office Outlook

  KB 931667 How to address the daylight saving time changes in 2007 by
  using the Time Zone Data Update Tool for Microsoft Office Outlook

  For recommendations and prescriptive guidance for updating Outlook
  calendars to comply with DST 2007 rule changes, review the Daylight
  Saving Time Correction for Microsoft Office Outlook Calendars - Help
  desk guidelines Web site. The goal is to provide an Outlook user with =
a
  "personal touch" experience to help them understand what is happening
  with their calendar. You might find this helpful when dealing with end
  user questions or answering their helpdesk calls on the subject.
  =3D=3D=3D



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; mike miller still =
lying.&nbsp; What a=20
surprise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you even bothered to =
read what you=20
quoted, which you may have done but ignored in order to continue your = lying,
you=20
would have noticed the tool is called "<FONT face=3D"Times New = Roman">Time
Zone=20
Data Update Tool for Microsoft Office Outlook</FONT>".&nbsp; Note that = it is
not=20
a change to Outlook or even an update for or to Outlook but a tool for = users
of=20
Outlook to make changes to their data that is incorrect because of the = time
zone=20
change.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV>"mike" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:27g8v25p9bm566c4luj2n9e18oitthr3tf@4ax.com">news:27g8v25p9bm=
566c4luj2n9e18oitthr3tf@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:59:28 +0200, "Antti Kurenniemi"<BR>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:NOantti@SPAManttikPLEASE.com">NOantti@SPAManttikPLEASE.com=
</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;"mike" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
  =
<BR>&gt;news:86t7v2t4jura75k1ldns6mnuq17pea721v@4ax.com...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;=20
  I still cannot understand why MS Outlook needs to be patched?&nbsp; Or =

  other<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; MS applications.&nbsp; Shouldn't MS Outlook =
(and=20
  other applications) be able<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to obtain daylight =
savings=20
  info from the underlying OS?&nbsp; It's not like<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
MS=20
  Outlook was written by some obscure software vendor that=20
  knows<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; nothing about the intermingling of apps and =
system=20
  software....<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Darn good=20
  question.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; I see now we are hearing =
that=20
  Outlook does not need to be "patched", it<BR>&gt;&gt; needs to be=20
  "updated".&nbsp;&nbsp; I also see that all the affected =
Microsoft<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  products need to be "updated" not "patched".<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Well it is =
a=20
  change that no one, not even Microsoft, could know beforehand, =
<BR>&gt;so I=20
  think "update" is fair. To me, "patching" implies an error in the=20
  <BR>&gt;software which in this case it is not.<BR><BR><BR>I don't =
disagree=20
  with that.&nbsp; It is more semantics than anything else,<BR>e.g., how =
can you=20
  apply an update - via a patch.<BR><BR>But I'm still wondering why =
Microsoft is=20
  recommending updating Outlook,<BR>i.e., why it doesn't just get its =
time zone=20
  info from the OS?<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_prodlist#O2003">http://suppor=
t.microsoft.com/gp/dst_prodlist#O2003</A><BR>=3D=3D=3D<BR>Outlook=20
  2003<BR>Download Microsoft Office Outlook Tool: Time Zone Data Update =
Tool=20
  for<BR>Microsoft Office Outlook<BR><BR>KB 931667 How to address the =
daylight=20
  saving time changes in 2007 by<BR>using the Time Zone Data Update Tool =
for=20
  Microsoft Office Outlook<BR><BR>For recommendations and prescriptive =
guidance=20
  for updating Outlook<BR>calendars to comply with DST 2007 rule =
changes, review=20
  the Daylight<BR>Saving Time Correction for Microsoft Office Outlook =
Calendars=20
  - Help<BR>desk guidelines Web site. The goal is to provide an Outlook =
user=20
  with a<BR>"personal touch" experience to help them understand what is=20
  happening<BR>with their calendar. You might find this helpful when =
dealing=20
  with end<BR>user questions or answering their helpdesk calls on the=20
  =
subject.<BR>=3D=3D=3D<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;/m</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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